Genealogy By The Numbers

G E N E A L O G Y b y t h e N U M B E R S ~ NOT JUST FILLED IN BLANKS ON A PEDIGREE ~ ~ THESE ARE REAL FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE ~ GENEALOGY DONE RIGHT: There is an old television show called 'Dragnet.' One of the leading characters on the show was Sergeant Joe Friday. One of his famous lines was that he was interested in 'the facts, just the facts.' Genealogy done right is similiarly based upon the facts. But sometimes facts can run stranger than any fiction and they are not always logical. That is there are times when the 'logical fit' IS NOT the truth of the matter when all of the facts are brought to light. And in genealogy there ought to be a great big: ~ W A R N I N G S I G N ~ stating that to be the case. Just because it is a nice logical fit does not make it so and you can end up with a lot of wrongly fitted families of absolute strangers if you just rely on what 'seems' to fit. I've personaly seen many such 'quick and dirty' shoddily compiled genealogy pairings in my own families, which I know absolutely ARE NOT the case just because some 'spalsh and dash' genealogy 'researcher' has pasted together what seems to fit, often to make their buck and run. And some people are so anxious to have a pedigree and often one that impresses, that they'll accept for theirs whatever comes along, as long as it is to their personal liking despite whether there is any truth in it or not. Now I will be the first to admit that I have made some mistakes myself. In the hard nosed research work of genealogy you just have to attempt to make some sense out of what you are finding. You search and you find bits and pieces of information, and you attempt to begin to put them together as best you can. And you almost always must make some type of presumptive conclusions from that information in order to follow the leads and hints which seem to pop out at you. In that process sometimes you are lucky and you find out that you were right. Other times, you find out and must bring yourself to the conclusion that you were wrong. And if you are NOT WILLING to make that conclusion that you were WRONG, then you are just in the wrong business, because you are going to find yourself more times wrong and on the wrong path than you are going to find that you were right. I guess what I am trying to say is that there is no room for 'ego' and 'pride' in genealogy work. If you are wrong you are wrong and you must be humble enough to admit it or you'll find yourself digging yourself pits of fiction and lies that will just eventually eat you up and basically destroy you. Putting together an actual ancestry, whether it be your own or someone else's, is dealing with what the true 'facts of the matter are, just the facts, and nothing but those facts' will do. And that can be hard to deal with, especially if you are the type that is into mud slinging and finding fault with people. You just cannot be of that nature because you will have to learn to accept people for what they are in order to get along with other people in doing genealogy work. The nortorious and infamous just does not need to be delved into beyond the basic need to know in order to properly connect the family ties. If you are into the sensational in either direction, you are going to put people off as a genealogist. If a murderer turns up in the family, having to know every gory degrading detail does not need to be gone into. Understatement is the governing rule and only to the extent that the family tie is made. Even those who are into producing the family history accompaniment to the genealogical family facts, just do not, you must not, degrade a person's family ties by gropping into the muck and the mire. The wise presumption and stance is there is not any such things wrong with the family unless it is needed to be stated to factually support the family relationships. If they become known, they are best left alone and forgotten if at all possible. Yes there are some who will make money by such digging, but they are no longer just doing genealogy work in involving themselves in those kind of processes. Now I am going to attempt to demonstrate what is involved and what it takes to make a factually sound family pedigree. That is the facts, just the facts based upon the necessary truth of the matter, but for sure NOT necessarily ALL of the truth. The dirty and distasteful does not have a needful place in genealogy work. Step One One of the easiest and most fruitful steps to do in genealogy work is the most important 'First Step' and it is the step which many people just do not take the time to do. As basic, easy and important as it is, however, it is frequently the first step that is most poorly done and abused. I think that is just becuase of human nature, pride and personal ego. That is understanding that most people [including myself] are like 'my wife who knows everything already'; people just do not seek light and understanding from others who just might know something that they do not know. I have to put that on my wife becuase of my own pride and ego just won't let me say it about my self. You know a man never will ask for directions; he'd just prefer to go around being lost than to admit that he doesn't know something. But that is true. We are all 'know it alls', we just 'know things already' and 'no one else can tells us anything.' Hours upon hours of work and bother, and being lost and going down wrong paths and doing work which has already been done; can be avoided by being humble enough to merely first seek the help and aid of others, including family members you are too proud to talk to. There are any number of people, members of your own family, who know a lot more than you do, even if you are the smartest one of the bunch. Just don't prove yourself to not be the smartest one by not having inquired of them first. Because if you do not begin with that first readily available resourse of already accumulated knowledge, which many of them have, then you have just unwittingly proven to them that you ARE NOT the smartest one of them all to begin with. And when they just may have put years of study and work it to the matter already, don't expect them to be able to stick a funnel in and pour all that inforation into your brain at once, say, in one afternoon's visit with them. When your family has someone who has been doing genealogy work for say over forty years, and you haven't even attempted to visit and inquire of them about some things; don't be surprised when it finally comes around that you have just been stomping around, often aimlessly through and upon someoneelse's foundational work. This is the number one source of duplication of LDS temple ordinance work. You feel so good about finding a distant relative that you may not have known about yourself and that you have been okayed to do their temple work. Later you find out that work has been done already, possibly even a number of times. Don't think for one minute that an 'idiot computer' which does only as programed can be smart enough to understand that Great Great Grandmother Polly is the same person as Great Great Grandmother Mary, because the computer doesn't think, it just sorts by exact matches, and that it was the family's nickname for Mary they were using even on some records as Polly. After all what relationship does the name Polly have to do with Mary? Well someone just might know that already if you would have asked. And often yesterday's temple work used such as 'estimated dates of birth' from census records or even just from a family's relationships as listed upon a will. Later someone else researches the names again, without consulting anyone else or anything else but themselves, and they have come up with a different age estimated year or birth location as one used the parish where they were baptized as the place name of the birth and another used the census record village or hamlet name listed on the census record of where they were born. Anything that is not an exact match is by that world's fasted idiot, the computer, considered to be a different person. It takes a thinking and reasoning by a human and often multiple humans' understanding to reconcile these little nitty gritty differences. It really is the most important step to consult with others, concerning genealogy work. Now the new Church program 'familysearch' attempts to have us do this in a way that doesn't hurt our pride by suggesting that there may be 'duplicates' of a person where the work has already been done. All is in the works of being attempted to being accessed, the old family group sheets archives of family work done, the old four generation program of submitting family information, the Church's own extraction program and the IGI listing and many other programs and original and 'old' informational sources are being attempted to be put into the 'system', but that system has to be addressed, used and interpreted by human reasoning and 'HUMAN KNOWLEDGE'. And a very large part of the 'HUMAN KNOWLEDGE BASE' just is not in any Church accessible program or listing. And that particular resource is the vast stacks of genealogical knowledge and research that has been accumulated by the individual genealogy workers, often the 'family genealogist,' that is stacked up in boxes, and in home file draws of information, and accumulated in long form books of rememberances, previous submissions and temple work done records of submissions according to how it was accomplished my them, perhaps way back when. My self, I have file draws of family genealogy information which someone just working on 'aunt suzie' may not think to consult. Yes such accummulated information has put together many family lines. I also have my own variously orgainized family and informational legal sized old books of rememberances with accumulated family information. I have other regular sized note books of information accummulated and put together of information, not to mention family photos and photo books. And the information I've accumulated and have available very often has solid information which contraticts and exposes ERROR and WRONG family pedigree mistakes being made by this modern online proprietary 'genealogy services' organizations which are leading people down the wrong genealogical paths and those who presume just because it is on such as 'Ancestry.com' it must be right. And because they are most interested in making 'impressive immediate genealogical matches' and families in North Caroline are suddenly being matched with one's in Pennsylvainia becuase of time and name computer matches but are NOT the truth of it, because it is ignoring the whole of the family in North Carolina that are not in Pennsylvia and never have been there in their ancestry. And in Cornwall they make a Clock and Watchmaker the father of a medical physcian MD rather than his real father who is a surgeon just because they cannot sort out a town's William Hender names, not thinking that there can be more than one or two in the 'old' days when they are actually a half dozen and more by the same name in that little area. Their splash and dash mode of genealogy makes a son's marriage date a father's death date just beause the father was listed on the marriage entry as having been deceased. And a computer will take the word deceased and the related date of the event and assign the marriage date to the father of the groom's death date. That's how an idiot thinks. It doesn't have the human reasoning sense ability to realize that the father of the groom is long past deceased and not just immediatly deceased on his son's marriage day. In short 'quick and dirty', 'splash and dash' shoddy genealogy work is being done and posted out on the internet and the 'new age' would be genealogists are believing what they are reading on these proprietary controlling services and the errors are being continued to be posted for over decades of time already and we are still just in the first generations of this online computer age of computer generated and aided genealogical information. What is missing is the most important resource of all, and that is the 'home based' resource which represents all the genealogy work of the past still available if one but takes the time to access it and utilize it. But what is to be expected from the 'splash and dash' generation whose lives are being directed and often dictated by the online services of the iphone, the internet and the like? Now don't get me wrong. I think this grand informational age is wonderful and extremely useful. And I can get things done in a matter of hours which would have taken me days, weeks, months and years, and possibly not at all because of the lack of fast speed immediate 'real time' responses to accumulating information within an extreme short amount of time. But some things I have to consider are being done 'WRONG'. Often a supposed 'free service' becomes but a draw to sign people up into a cost based enrollment with proprietary restrictions that has penalties for openly communicating on the information super highway. YES, I'd love to address and communicate to these sources and fill them in on where they are making their errors and just give them the information as to why they are WRONG. But I can't even find or use their email to contract them because they are all tied up in the 'free service' offer which has tied them into not so real open exchaging of the information because they are tied into their lonely little clique, sometimes limited by country, a single family line or some other interest which has bound them together but also isolated them from the rest of the world of available information. If I could get the beginning genealogists of today to do anything, which would be the most important thing for them to do, it would be to shut up that digital access of information from themselves until they have first consulted the 'home sources' of the information and begin their search most properly where they ought to begin their search and not just to ASS-U-ME some posted online, falsely contrived, genealogy to be their own. So be brave enough and humble enough to begin by seeking the answers from your own family members. It takes a little time, a little effort, but oh how it can save yourself ions of time and fruitless effort, and possibly something 'sealed' a computer's memory so solidly that it will be a perpetual error on into the Millennium. It pains me to see various neices and nephews going about re-ploughing the field, [often the wrong field] and redoing the work that has already been done, when they could have started so much further on down the track by just asking and finding out what is what, what is already known and what has already been done before; and does not need to be done over and over again. If you are into the LDS ordinance side of the work as I, I have to sit back and suffer watching such relatives redoing that which has been done and redone already. Well at any rate, that is the First MOST IMPORTANT Step. Learn to build on that foundation which has already been laid by others for you. There are parents, siblings, aunts and uncles, and even that which has been done by the LDS Church 'estblishment' that has already been done to benefit from. If you know or have been told that one such particular of them has being working in the genealogical work before, make them one of your priorities and points of contact. And don't expect to have all that they have done to be poured into you in one sitting. If you do you'll be disapointed and come away with a totally wrong impression. You'll likely come away with that 'I know all that stuff already attitude' because the bulk of what was available just could not be fitted into one session or visit and you left disapointed because all you were doing was just scratching the surface. Certainly do not expect to be 'bottle feed everything all at once', there is just too much involved to ever do that. And what is best to do is to prepare your self and they who you are going to approach with some pointedly prepared area of questions and discusion, such as just one of the many family lines which you, at the time are particularly interested in. You may be interested in 'all of it' but such 'all of it' is likely setting in volumes of work and resources which just cannot be given and gone through in a one time meeting event. As I have said, and it bear repeating for it really does not sink in by being spoken of just once; myself, I have files, cabinets of file folders, often one for each family I research. And where the modern age has taken over from the paper and drawer and book type storage, I have gigabytes of filed information stored and downloaded onto a computer storage device, with even information beyond a skeleton pedigree scheme of various computer services [who more often than not have numerous flaws and wrong leads anyway]. And other than the LDS Church databases and services, these 'other guys' whose $$$$ interest is not just your personal correct ancestry, ought to take their proper places as 'secondary' reference resources and you need to become as your second step aquainted with the 'primary' information sources and learn how to factually document that which you may seemed to have found online. There are genealogy libraries and many chapels and state centers have a genealogy service center with aids there to help. Also, perhaps beyond needing to state the obvious: Take the time and resources to organize your self. If your initial first step of gathering your basic materials from your family sources has not taught you that already then you have put yourself into the position of being taken advantage of by the many self-serving 'genealogy serices' out there who are interested in your $$ first and your correct ancestry only as a by-product of various levels of quality and accuracy, which they are not so concerned about. If you read their disclaimers they will tell you 'they are not responsible' for all the error ridden genealogy postings which they so readily collect and post indiscriminately just to tout an 'oversized' and 'proprietarialy' ran database of genealogical errors. The biggest thing they are lacking is that they have no real system of any adequate quality control. You may well find yourself somewhere way off line digging in someone else's back yard totally unrealted to you because you have put some level of undeserved trust into their system of 'closed proprietary control' that doesn't even encourage you to be on the whole broad band of the super highway informational flow available on the internet. I can't tell you just how frustrating it is to see the number of erroneous postings on their pages which I am prohibited from contacting those in error because of their 'closed cliques' of not allowing open shared email exchange but within their system. And if you haven't read the fine print, they have taken a proprietary hold of what you are posting that they effectly 'own' within the system that you ARE NOT allowed to share but with and by them. Anyway enough of the warnings and rewarnings. The next productive step after the 'home ground survey' and 'self organization' is to access the true frontline informational sources. I will list these but with no real set of priority order, for that will vary as to what is available in each particular case. 1. Census Records - Many of which are free and online. They can give an ablum of decade interval snapshots from which one can form and establish whole sets of families. 2. Parish registry records of baptism, marriages and deaths - again many of which are online and free. 3. Online area surveys, maps and various related family materials. You can visit where they lived, explore by maps and even by satilite picture views of the lands of your ancestors. 4. National, state and local record access, with some retrival now being online for a minimal fee. This includes such things as civil records of births, deaths, marriages, family wills, land deeds and etc. 5. Don't forget the traditional value of the hands on library facilities. The bigger the better such as the Salt Lake City LDS Genealogical centers. And if availabe go to the local 'ward house churches' where online accesses are available, free training for member and non-member alike and the ability to order copies of film files out of Salt Lake which may be of special and particular interest. 6. School records, military records, immagration records, and even medical records, which sadly has been withheld from but immediate personal availability even away from family and even spouse. 7. Cemetary and grave listings, as well as obituaries and even other news paper anouncements and listings. Well perhaps this is enough piling it high without actualy doing some 'work' to see how it may be put together. I've spent some 50 years into family access and laying foundational levels of research accumulation already, so I'll not begin with such interviews, only where it is that they have today left me and how and where today I am able to go from there to gain my answers. I will briefly start with me and readily take me back to one family line which I can use to more fully demonstrate the 'building of a solidly founded genealogical linage line.' Me Philip David Hender and Lucille Gladys Swanner My Parents and their data, mostly obtained in house but as it is the truth, it is always supported by the truth of the documentations which our family also has. Don't fore go beginning with such basics. As my particular line, which I will use as an example of adequate supplied documentation, is on my father's side, so I will begin with a bit of his information and where it comes from, besides general household knowledge about our Hender family. I am a big fan of 'familysearch' provided by the LDS Church and though like on all sites, some errors may find their way in, 'familysearch' is a most reliable site with no $$$ driven incentives and their foundational purpose in supporting such genealogical services is of the highest good intentions and of the greatest desires to make their information accurate and highly useful to those who come to use it. You can get there as easy as it is to browse for 'familysearch' and then in all honest good faith just go to work using and searching their resources. From familysearch [LDS Genealogical Online Research Center]: Utah, Veterans with Federal Service...
Name: Phillip David Hender [Philip David Hender] Death Date: 31 Dec 1959 Death Place: Clearfield, Davis, Utah Birth Date: 25 Aug 1901 Birthplace: Layton, Davis, Utah [particularly West Layton] Cemetery: Kaysville Layton Burial Place: Kaysville, Davis, Utah Military Unit: Aviation [Chief Aviation Machinist] Military Service Branch: Coast Guard [they didn't have army and navy as well] War: World War 2 [they didn't have World War I] Note: Various sources can be quite good, but hardly any are 'complete' as to all things. And some things of record, are not always the full truth of the matter. My Dad's name was Philip with one 'l' and not two, as it was a family name alway spelt with one 'l' and not two. But often 'recorders' like computers today 'know everything' even if it is wrong. The military and government and various places of records can be that way. They have their way of recording your name and it is often not your way. My name is Don. Some 'idiots' have it recorded as Donald.
The variety of records sources are great, from just my dad's Utah Veterans supplied information it gives a brief laundry list to begin from. From my personal knowledge as from various family souces this skeleton of information may be added to. I'll briefly illustrate. My dad's first name is Philip with one 'l'. The military most often has it listed with two 'll's but it is not the family correct spelling. He was named after his grandfather Philip Trout Hender, who in turn was named after his mother's father Philip Trout. He died in my presence on New Year's eve. He had come home from the local LDS Ward celibration early not feeling to good, my mother had stayed as she like to see the New Year come in with the celebrations and all. My dad was seated at the kitchen table when he had a heart attack and died on our kitchen floor so close to the New Year's hour that they dated his death as being 31 December 1959. He was born in what is more properly denoted as West Layton as Layton is large enough for three cities, West Layton being the farming land west down to the Great Salt Lake, Central Layton where 'downtown' was and East Layton rising upon onto the lower bench areas along the mountains. The Kaysville Cemetary is where four family generations are buried beginning with my great grandparents Philo Dibble Jr. and his wife Antoinette Cleveland Dibble; my grandparents Albert Hender and his wife Laura Antoinette Dibble Hender; my parents Philip David Hender and his wife Lucille Gladys Swanner, and my oldest brother Philip David Hender Jr. and oldest sister Dorothy Lucille Hender. Also buried there is my dad's sister Aunt May Dibble Hender Davis and her husband Paul Oliver Davis, and a long with them a number of their family. Not a part of the supplied Veterans record is that my dad also served some 3 years in the Navy and a half year in the Army during the time of the US scirmish with Mexico which actually made my father officially a veteran of both World War I and World War II. Without family and personal knowledge added these are a few of the things missed by such a brief record listing. My Father's Parents, I begin to branch out. Albert Hender and Laura Antoinette Dibble
From familysearch [LDS Genealogical Online Research Center]: My dad's family in 1901 summarized. Name: Philip D Hender - Census 1910 Layton, Davis, Utah, United States Gender: Male Age: 9 Marital Status: Single Race: White Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birth Year (Estimated): 1901 Birthplace: Utah Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Utah Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Albert Hender Head M 32 England Laura A Hender Wife F 34 Utah Philip D Hender Son M 9 Utah Robert Jenkin Boarder M 31 England
My grandmother's name is Laura Antoinette Dibble Hender, the daughter of Philo Dibble Jr. who was the son of Philo Dibble Sr. After having my father in 1901, Laura had two still born twins who were so small that they buried them in a shoebox. My grandfather Albert Hender was born in East Looe, Cornwall, England so it was no big surprise that the LDS Church called him on an LDS Mission to England 1907-1909. This census caught him back at home in Utah again and from what I understand, Robert Jenkin, the boarder had come to Utah from England about the same time that Albert returned and was staying with the family because he knew Albert in England. Albert Hender's Certified Birth Record from England
As said, Albert was born in England. As seen on his copy of birth entry, his mother was Grace Chipman, though on her marriage record she was listed as Grace Chapman. Albert's Christian baptism was on 27th of February 1878 at Looe parish church. Albert's father, Philip Trout Hender, died when Albert was but a baby. Before Albert began school, Albert's mother remarried and Albert and his new Collins family moved to Canada where he was schooled and raised. My understanding is Albert came to Utah to do some farming business. He stayed and met Laura Antoinette Dibble and they were married in the Salt Lake Temple. It was in 1910 that their daughter May Dibble Hender was born. And after that time the family moved to Metropolis (Wells), Nevada where they had bought land and began farming. I believe it was there on his farm that Albert fell backwards off a haystack and broke his neck. He was likely transported by buckboard and then by train back to Salt Lake where Albert died with a broken neck in the hospital.		More information about record 2201485 in the Baptisms database Day Month 27-Feb Year 1878 Parish/Reg Dist Looe Forename Albert Surname HENDER Sex Father Forename Philip Mother Forename Grace Residence East Looe Father Rank Pro Fisherman Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent OPC (Cornwall) free online Parish Records (Baptism) information - don't use the record # they change.
My Grandfather's Parents: Philip Trout Hender and Grace Chapman were married in 1877, Albert Hender was born in 1878 and later that year Philip Trout Hender died leaving Grace with her baby son. Thus their family never appeared on a Census record, but the 1881 Census did show Grace's new husband and family as will eventually follow below: Philip Trout Hender and Grace Chipman Family Knowledge, Certificates, Certified Copies, Pictures, Census Records, Parish Records & Etcetera Genealogy by the numbers is a compilation of information and documentation which consists of a gathering of family varifying and confirming information that one's ancestors as people did in fact once live upon the earth and that they are who you are able to say that they are. It is not just finding a name to list upon one's pedigree chart. Concern the Chipman or Chapman family line I an here attempting to display just what that all intails. This is the certified copy one can recieve from England of a person's registration of birth. This one is for Grace Chipman / Chapman my Great Grandmother [figure your own relationship from that]. By clicking on the image you may see the larger full scanned image which will aid if you have trouble making out or reading a portion of the document. It fully illustrates the type of information that one can find upon this registration. As stated it is a 'copy' of that registration which has been taken from the original, which is done with some effort and skill deduced as to what was written on the original. It is not that original, which is often hard to read according to such original penmanship as went into the original form by the pen in hand recorder of the actual time. An illustration of such an original and its often poor hand written recording is provided below for another such document. One must appreciate and thank those who prepare these certified copies of the originals for their time and effort put into making the information as clear and correct as is possible. Thank you. Grace was born and baptized under the name of Grace Chipman but married as Grace Chapman. In Devon and Eastern Cornwall it was most frequently written as Chapman, further west in Cornwall, around St. Just in Roseland and Pilleigh, it was most often Chipman. Same name different recorders. NOTE: Philip's dad Thomas is listed as having been deceased on Philip's marriage record. Many online Genealogy services give Thomas Rowe Hender's death date as his son's wedding date - NOT SO! Grace Chipman/Chapman's second Marriage to William Thomas Collins/(Collings)
Now what is of interest to pay attention to here is perhaps a 'general rule' of east and west. It seems that the west county favors 'Chipman' and the east county and Devon generally prefers 'Chapman'. This holds for Grace was born and listed as being Grace Chipman on her birth documentation of the Gerrans, Rosland area, and on her Plymouth, Devon area marriage record she was married as Grace Chapman. But that is just 'generally' as the name does also very in both areas as well as I suppose that it is also a function of who the recording clerk or clergy person is as well. In Lanlivery where William Chapman was born, Grace's grandfather, and with his marriage as well, he was recorded there as William Chapman. Yet while his children's baptisms in Cuby w Tregony where randomly listed as either Chipman or Chapman, William his son and Grace's own father was baptized as William Chapman and his marriage in Philleigh was as William Chipman as all will be seen below. Grace's Canadian death extrated information is at the right. I guess even in Canada they don't get the people's names recorded right as the name is Collins with two 'l's, not Colins.
1881 Census, East Looe, Cornwall, England Middle Market Street: William T. Collins, Head, M, 26, Labourer General, Lansallos, Cornwall [Inlaw] Grace Collins, Wife, M, 23, Gerrans Cornwall [Great Grandmother] Albert Hender, son, 3, East Looe Cornwall [Grandfather] Philip Trout Hender was not found on the 1871 Census but he was on the 1861 Census. 1861 Census, East Looe, Cornwall, England Fore Steet: Robert Wynhall, Head, M, 40, Sailor Merchant Serv., East Looe Corn. [Step-Father-Inlaw] Mary Wynhall, Wife, M, 35, Wife of Above, East Looe Cornwall [2nd Great Grandmother] Philip Hender, Sonlaw, U, 16, Scholar, East Looe Cornwall [Great Grandfather] Ellen Hender, Daulaw, 13, Scholar, East Looe Cornwall [2nd Great Aunt] William Hender, Sonlaw, 11, Scholar, East Looe Cornwall [2nd Great Uncle] Note: After Thomas Rowe Hender's death, Mary/Mari anna [Trout] Hender, married second Robert Wynhall. Some have began to ASS-U-ME that Thomas and Mari anna were divorced because they use the incorrect son's marriage date as the father's death date.
Philip Trout Hender's parents were Thomas Rowe Hender and Mary anna Trout. They had 5 known children. Their last two sons, Thomas Hender and Harry Hender had died in the decade from 1851 to 1861 and also their father Thomas Rowe Hender. Mary anna Trout Hender remarried Robert Wynhall and here is that family with Mary, her new husband and Step-Father with the there remaining Hender children, Philip Trout Hender, Ellen Hender and William Hender, sons and daughter-in-law to the head of house. Now there is substancial documentation on the Hender family in hand, but the line being illustrated here is the Chipman/Chapman family line so that extensive amount of documentation will not be shown in this presentation. At this same juncture in time, Philip Trout Hender's future wife's family was to be found in St. Just in Roseland. There the much younger Grace Chipman is listed by the Chipman variation of their surname Chapman. William Chipman and Fanny Collett Some Civil Records with Parish Records and Census Decade Snapshots This is the certified copy of an entry of marriage for William Chipman [Chapman] and Fanny Collett. As a skilled copy of the original entry of marriage it has been written in very readable writing. In this case I also have a scan of the 'original entry of marriage' to which we can compare the copy to. It is worth a look so as to see what the skilled transcriber of the original has to work from and what may or may not be added or lost in the transcription copy from the original. The scan of the original entry was 'extra long' so it took two scans to complete it. So there are two displays of it below, the left portion and the right portion, between which the complete original may be seen with some overlap to be considered as to just how it looked. As can be seen on the original, which is not apparent on the copy, is that Fanny Collett did make the effort and write her own name. While it displays a certain level of educated penmanship, I believe that it is more readable than a Medical Physcian's signiture of a medical perscription today. While Fanny wrote her name on the marriage entry, the common labourer, William Chipman [Chapman] did but make his mark on the marriage entry. As can be seen, it is a true and faithful copy with perhaps the exception of the residence names which I believe the transcriber made as best he/she could from the knowledge had of such matters at the time of the transcription. As for Treworthal or Treworthial, I have seen it 'proper' spelt both ways depending. And I believe that the other name, which is a bit more difficult to decifer, I believe it to be.
1861 Census, St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England Polin: William Chipman,Head,M,43,,Ag Lab,Veryan Cornwall [2nd Great Grandfather] Fanny Chipman,Wife,M,,49,,Philleigh Cornwall [2nd Great Grandmother] John Chipman,Son,,7,,,St Just Cornwall Grace Chipman,Dau,,,4,,Gerrans Cornwall [Great Grandmother] William Chipman was born at Veryan according to Census about 1818 Fanny ------ was born at Philleigh according to Census about 1812 John Chipman born St. Just about 1854 Grace Chipman born Gerrans about 1857
1851 Census, St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England Folio 297 Page 13 49,St Just Lane,William Pascoe,Head,M,72,,Mason,St Just Cornwall, ,,Mary Pascoe,Wife,M,,54,Tayloress,St Just Cornwall,, ,,Catherine Pascoe,Dau,U,,27,Sowing Girl,St Just Cornwall,, ,,Grace Ralf,Niece,U,,14,House Servant,St Just Cornwall,, 50,St Just Lane,William Chipman,Head,M,34,Ag Lab,Veryan Cornwall, ,,Fanny Chipman,Wife,M,,39,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary Chipman,Dau,U,,13,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Ann Chipman,Dau,U,,8,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,William Chipman,Son,U,5,,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,Dau,U,,3,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Samuel Chipman,Son,U,8m,,,St. Just Cornwall,,		For whatever causes and/or reasons the census records are not without errors. The 'rounding rule' of the 1841 census noted below was not an error though it incorrectly caused ages to be wrongly listed as per those rules of rounding. But such as the age of Mary Chipman here as age 13 is an error for whatever reason made. Both her parish baptism record and the 1841 Census evidences that. And certainly she is not two years born before her parents were even married in 1839.
1841 Census, St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England Lane,1,William Chipman,20,,Ag Labourer,In county, [Age 24] ,,Fanny Chipman,,25,,In county, [Age 29] ,,Mary Chipman,,8m,,In county, ,,William Collett,65,,Shoe Maker,In county, Lane,1,John Vincent,40,,Agricultural Labourer,In county, ,,Ann Vincent,,30,,In county, ,,Mary Vincent,,13,,In county, ,,Elisabeth Vincent,,10,,In county, ,,John Vincent,5,,,In county, Book 11 Folio 11 Page 15		There needs be an understanding concerning the 1841 Census. It was taken on the evening of 6 June 1841. All responses were to reflect those who spent that night at the residence. Those not there were presumed elsewhere and to be counted there. Uniquely ages over 15 were to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years. Usually they were and need to be so understood. A William Chipman age 24 would be recorded as 20. A Fanny Chipman age 29 would be recorded as age 25. Etc. Fanny's father is there living with them.
William Chapman/Chipman was born at Veryan, Cornwall in 1817 per Census records. Fanny Collett was born Philleigh, Cornwall in 1812 per Census records. Marr: William Chipman of Trelissa?, bach. & Fanny Collett of Treworthal, spinster both of full age, William's father was William Chipman/Chapman a Farmer & Fanny's father was William Collett, shoemaker. Witnesses: William Collett and Robert Davey Collett. William Chipman/Chapman = Fanny Collett b 1817 \| b 1812 Veryan \| Philleigh cb 29 Jun 1817 \| cb 1 Mar 1812 Cuby with Tregony \| Philleigh m 1 Jun 1839 \| Philleigh \| m 3qtr 1865 \| d Apr 1865 Truro \| Gerrans = Maria Coombs \| db 30 Apr 1865 d Dec 1895 \| Philleigh db 25 Dec 1895 \| age 53 Perranzabuloe \| ____________________________________________________\|_______________________________________________________ \|Chickman \| Chikman \| \| \|George \| \|Chapman Mary Chipman Elizabeth Ann Chipman William Chipman Elizabeth Chipman Samuel ^ Chipman John Chipman Grace Chipman b 1840/1838 b 1842 b 1846 b 25 Aug 1847 b 1850 b 1853 b 5 Apr 1857 St Just St Just St Just St Just St Just St Just Gerrans cb 18 Oct 1840 cb 1 Jan 1843 cb 26 Apr 1846 cb 1 Sep 1850 cb 8 Jan 1854 cb 14 Jun 1857 St Just Rose. St Just Roseland St Just Rose. St Just Rose. St Just Rose. Gerrans m 23 Apr 1877 E. Stonehouse = Philip Hender m 4 Dec 1880 Liskeard = William Collings d 19 Mar 1936 Ridgetown Can age 78 Marriage Site Locations Philleigh ~ Trelissa ~ Treworthal Upon the three marriage documents of copied official certificate, the original hand written registered entry and the OPC trancscribed Parish record, the map at the right is able to point out the relationary location of the Parish town of Philleigh, the then residence of William Chipman as Trelissa pointed out by the red pointer, and the residence of Fanny Collett of Treworthal on a google map of today. As in England rural areas, many older named places are still findable though not in the actual conditions they once were in.
More information about record 522148 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Mar Year 1812 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Fanny Surname COLLETT Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Ann Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Furse trans Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3088053 in the Baptisms database Day Month 29-Jun Year 1817 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename William Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Fthr Rank Prof Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey A break through here is that the family's residence was Veryan and that is were William was born as per the census records, but the big tie-in is that he was actually baptized or christened at Cuby with Tregony, and that will fit with his siblings identity. More information about record 2349962 in the Burials database Day Month 30-Apr Year 1865 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Fanny Surname CHIPMAN Age 53 Residence Gerrans Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2350098 in the Burials database Day Month 11-Apr Year 1886 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William Surname COLLETT Age 70 Residence Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 950670 in the Marriages database Day Month 01-Jun Year 1839 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn William Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age full Groom Residence Trelissa? Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Prof labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M m Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Fanny Bride Sn COLLETT Bride Age full Bride Residence Treworthal Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro - Brd Sign/Mark S/M s Bride Father Name William Brd Fthr Rank Pro shoemaker Banns/Licence B/L - Witness Fn1 William Witness Sn1 COLLETT Witness Fn2 Robert Davey Witness Sn2 COLLETT Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 1267755 in the Baptisms database Day Month 18-Oct Year 1840 Parish/Reg Dist St Just Roseland Forename Mary Collet Surname CHICKMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Fthr Rank Prof shoemaker Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly Whether recorder mistake or transcriber/extractor, the name is Chipman or even Chapman NOT CHICKMAN. And perhaps by misunderstanding of what asked/said, and who may have been present; as Fanny's father was living with them and his profession was a shoemaker instead of William Chipman's profession. William's profession as seen on the census and marriage records to have been a 'labourer - Agricultural Labourer. Father/Grandfather William Collett is listed on the 1841 Census and various marriage records as the Shoe Maker and his son-in-law is not. More information about record 1267810 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Jan Year 1843 Parish/Reg Dist St Just Roseland Forename Elizabeth Anne Surname CHIKMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Pro shoemaker Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 1267897 in the Baptisms database Day Month 26-Apr Year 1846 Parish/Reg Dist St Just Roseland Forename William Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly Certified Copy of Birth below: Eliza [Elizabeth] Chipman born 25 August 1847 St Just Lane, St Just Father: William Chipman labourer Mother: Fanny Chipman formerly Collett *Certified copy of entry of Birth from Gen. Reg. Off. England (See same above.) More information about record 1268026 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Sep Year 1850 Parish/Reg Dist St Just Roseland Forename Samuel George Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3034908 in the Baptisms database Day Month 08-Jan Year 1854 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename John Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes film 2276152 image 1303 entry 21 Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3086546 in the Baptisms database Day Month 14-Jun Year 1857 Parish/Reg Dist Gerrans Forename Grace Surname CHIPMAN Sex - Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence Trewince Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes - Trans Notes - Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
NOTE: This information will be duplicated below under that family of William Chapman and Elizabeth Moon as they are the parents of this previous William Chipman/Chapman. AND as one of his parents' family he will be diplayed again with actually MORE information that what has been presented here. Please do not become confused when he begins to be seen duplicated below as one of the children of the parents below.
Much of all this is family based information which is best began to gather at the home sources. My Grandfather's parents and more specifically his Mother 'Grace Chipman' actualy came to visit her son Albert's family in Utah with one of Albert's half sisters who wanted to stay and live in Utah, Aunt Gertrude Collins. William Chapman/Chipman & Elizabeth Moon
1851 Census Philleigh, Cornwall, England Folio 241 Page 19 56,Couches,Mary Ball,Head,W,,58,Pauper/carpenter's Widow,Gerrans Cornwall,, 57,Couches,James Ferrill,Head,M,40,,Ag Lab,Gerrans Cornwall,, ,,Susan Ferrill,Wife,M,,30,Schoolmistress,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,James Ferrill,Son,U,1,,,Gerrans Cornwall,, 58,Trelussoe,William Chipman,Head,M,67,,Farmer Of 70 Acres Ampl 1 Lab, Lanlivery Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,Wife,M,,65,,Pinnock Cornwall,, ,,Jonathan Chipman,Son,U,21,,Farmer's Son,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Josiah Chipman,Son,U,19,,Farmer's Son,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Jane Robins,Serv,U,,19,House Servant,Gerrans Cornwall,, 1851 Census of William Chipman and Elizabeth [Moon] Chipman His Wife This actual copy of the actual census further establishes that the wife of William Chapman of Lanlivery and his wife of St. Pinock are the couple married according to the transcribed marriage entry below for the marriage of this couple, William Chipman/Chapman of Lanlivery and Elizabeth Moon who was at the time of marriage also a resident of Lanlivery but according to the census record was actually born in or about the Parish of St. Pinnock. The relative significance of this only comes further clear when it is known that the Moon families had an origin connected to St. Pinnock, at least such farm lands their associated, but that they in fact has their Parish processing and records out of Liskeard which did seem to contain many such Moon family records of the Moon families in other surrounding parish farm areas that did also have their parish event records in connection to Liskeard. In short, it takes Elizabeth Moon, wife of William Chipman/Chapman right out of an origin in Lanlivery and delivers her to an origin of birth at St Pinnock, which is further connected to the Moon families whose parish event proceedings where recorded in and out of Liskead. Thus accordingly it made Elizabeth Moon, duaghter of John Moon and Agnes Bunt, the age matching parents of the Elizabeth Moon that did marry William Chapman/Chipman in Lanivery; that is with the name of Chipman/Chapman being variously written and recorded concerning this family throughout all of their family record. This due to part in that they did not read of write themselves and therefore were left to whoever and whereever their parish and census events did take place.
1841 Census Philleigh, Cornwall, England Trelassa,1,William Chipman,55,Farmer,In county, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,,50,,In county, ,,John Chipman,30,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Margaret Chipman,,25,,In county, ,,George Chipman,20,,,In county, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,,15,,In county, Book 4 Folio 8 Page 10 ,,Samuel Chipman,14,,,In county, ,,Jonathan Chipman,11,,,In county, ,,Josiah Chipman,9,,,In county,		As the family is listed in 1841 there are some known children missing from the census record. Understandably, William who is married to Fanny Collett is listed with his family in St Just. Thomas is listed on this same Philleigh census at the farm of Joseph Andrew as Thomas Chipman, 15, Ag. Lab. and Philippa is listed on the William Searle farm as Philippa Chapman, 20, Ag. Servant.
1851 Census 58,Trelussoe,William Chipman ,Head,M,67,,Farmer Of 70 Acres Empl 1 Lab,Lanlivery Cornwall,, , ,Elizabeth Chipman,Wife,M,65,, ,St Pinnock Cornwall,, , ,Jonathan Chipman,Son,U,21,,Farmer's Son,Philleigh Cornwall,, , ,Josiah Chipman,Son,U,19,,Farmer's Son,Philleigh Cornwall,, , ,Jane Robins,Serv,U,,19,House Servant,Gerrans Cornwall,, William Chipman/Chapman & Elizabeth Moon Family William Chapman = Elizabeth Moon b 1784 \| b 1786 Lanlivery \| St Pinnock cb 31 Jul 1785 \| cb 25 Feb 1787 Lanlivery \| Liskeard m 18 Feb 1808 \| Lanlivery \| \| db 4 Dec 1859 \| Philleigh \| age 75 \| \| ____________________________________________________\|__________________________________________________ \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| John Chipman Mary Chipman Mary Ann Chipman Margaret Thomas Chapman William Chapman George Chapman \| b 1809(1841) b 1813 Veryan b 1815(1841) b 1817 Veryan b 1820(1841) \| cb 1 Oct 1809 cb 10 Nov 1811 cb 24 Jul 1813 cb 21 Jul 1815 cb 29 Jun 1817 cb 30 May 1819 \| Cuby w Tregony Lanlivery Cuby w Tregony Cuby w Tregony Cuby w Tregony Cuby w Tregony \| db 14 Feb 1847 db 5 Sep 1812 m 17 Oct 1835 m 6 Oct 1841 m 1 June 1839 m 6 May 1843 \| Philleigh Lanlivery Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh \| age 38 Infant = William Dingle = Alexander Dingle = Fanny Collett = Mary Tonkin \| \| \|___________________________________________________________________________________________________ \| \| \| \| \| \| Philippa Chapman Thomas Chipman Elizabeth Chipman Samuel Chapman Jonathan Chapman Josiah Champman b 1825(1841) b 1827(1841) b 1830(51/41) b 1828((51/41) Philleigh Philleigh cb 3 Jun 1821 cb 5 Oct 1823 cb 10 Jun 1825 cb 16 Sep 1827 cb 13 Sep 1829 cb 4 Sep 1831 Cuby w Tregony Cuby w Tregony Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh m 9 Apr 1846 m 24 Jul 1852 m 1 Nov 1845 db 22 Nov 1849 m 29 Dec 1853 m 29 Mar 1855 Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh = Joseph Long = Elizabeth = William age 22 = Mary Jane = Jane Robins Waters Stevens Nichols m 8 Aug 1861* db 21 Jan 1853 Philleigh Philleigh = Harriet Burnett age 29 db 28 Jun 1907 Ruan Lanihorne a77 Treworga
Here is a prime example of how one factual supplied source record can properly lead you to the next. This William Chipman is the father of that William Chipman who married Fanny Collett. We gain two important items of information from this census record which will aid us in our search for who this William Chipman's parentage is. First he is age 67 in 1851 (1851 - 67 = 1784). That is a 'guide' as to Williams 'possible' 'near' birth and round about when one might find his baptismal date. We can start by looking from the year before to the year after depending on his actual birth and given an amount of time before his baptism, so 1783-1785 to start with. And second we know which parish and its neighborhood in which to begin looking as the census states he was born in 'Lanlivery'. Now when we look there are three surname variations we are to look for as 'Chipman' can appear as 'Chapman' and also possibly as 'Chepman'. And in William's case, he will use all three before his related records are compiled and completed. So at the OPC Baptism database we put the parish as Lanlivery, the dates from 1783-1785 and begin with the name of Chipman. We check of to search alternative near surnames and near parishes and 'search'. And we find nothing. For some reason the OPC has been set up to not consider that 'Chapman' is a near name and alternative for 'Chipman'. But Great Grandma Grace was born a Chipman and married as a Chapman, so we know it and try again with the surname of Chapman. And this time we connect. There is a William Chapman son of George Chapman and his wife Charity. The we also search for the marriage of William Chapman there in Lanlivery and we find that as well. (Sell all below) But the 1851 census for the family of William and Fanny Chipman state that our Great Grandfather William Chipman was born in Veryan. And we've looked for him there for years and had given up until the online searchable database has made it easy to search all the parish records database information at once, not just one parish at a time on reals of microscopic photofilm which has to be ran through a machine for hours and days at a time to find information from just one surrounding possibility. And now we find that wall residence of Veryan, almost the whole of the first half of the family of William Chapman/Chipman and Elizabeth Moon has had their baptism at Cuby w Tregony. Though Family Search list this as St Cuby that can confuse the issue as there is a St Cuby Duloe as well and the OPC database is set up to only reference this 'Cuby' as 'Cuby w Tregony'. So if I were to tell you to look at the parish of St Cuby you may end up looking for St Cuby Duloe in the reference materials and not find it at all on the OPC database. In short they lived and gave birth to their children in Veryan but baptisms were done at 'Cuby w Tregony' as will be seen below. Also you'd have to look under Chipman and Chapman to find them all, particluarly son William Chipman, father of Grace Chipman/Chapman.
More information about record 1322474 in the Baptisms database Day Month 31-Jul Year 1785 Parish/Reg Distr Lanlivery Forename William Surname CHAPMAN Sex M Father Forename George Mother Forename Charity Residence Father Rank Prof Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Pauline Pickup More information about record 2347718 in the Baptisms database Day Month 25-Feb Year 1787 Parish/Reg Dist Liskeard Forename Elizabeth Surname MOON Sex Dau Father Forename John Mother Forename Agnes Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Jago's Trans Transcriber Peter Walton More information about record 2349925 in the Burials database Day Month 04-Dec Year 1859 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Surname CHIPMAN Age 75 Residence Philleigh Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly [Note: The particular details concerning Elizabeth Moon are not part of this presentation on the Genealogical documenting of the Chipman/Chapman line. That is another matter for the Moon linage. She is presented merely as the selected wife.]	More information about record 529844 in the Marriages database Day Month 18-Feb Year 1808 Parish/Reg Dist Lanlivery Groom Fn William Groom Sn CHAPMAN Groom Age Groom Residence Lanlivery Groom Condition Groom Rank Pro Grm Sign/Mark S/M M Groom Father Name Grm Fthr Rank Pro Bride Fn Elizabeth Bride Sn MOON Bride Age Bride Residence Lanlivery Bride Condition Spinster Bride Rank Prof Brd Sign/Mark S/M M Bride Father Name Brd Fthr Rank Pro Banns/Licence B/L B Witness Fn1 Walter Witness Sn1 RICHARDS Witness Fn2 Richard Witness Sn2 CULLIS Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber Pauline Pickup More information about record 941167 in the Burials database Day Month 05-Sep Year 1812 Parish/Reg Dist Lanlivery Forename Mary Surname CHIPMAN Age Residence Notes An infant Trans Notes Transcriber Pauline Pickup I thought a 'lost' child might fit here as there is a gap and a question about a Mary Chipman baptism 10 Nov 1811 at Lanlivery daughter of William & Eliz'th if they returned here before they located at Veryan. Mary died and was buried 5 Sep 1812.	More information about record 3123017 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Oct Year 1809 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename John Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Transcriber M Hancock /K Halley More information about record 1323006 in the Baptisms database Day Month 10-Nov Year 1811 Parish/Reg Dist Lanlivery Forename Mary Surname CHIPMAN Sex F Father Forename William Mother Forename Eliz'th Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Pauline Pickup <<< Mary died as an infant recorded at Lanlivery parish. More information about record 3087915 in the Baptisms database Day Month 24-Jul Year 1813 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Mary Ann Surname CHAPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elisabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey
More information about record 3088002 in the Baptisms database Day Month 21-Jul Year 1815 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Margaret Surname CHAPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3088176 in the Baptisms database Day Month 03-Jun Year 1821 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Philippa Surname CHAPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3052026 in the Baptisms database Day Month 16-Sep Year 1827 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Samuel Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 3088053 in the Baptisms database Day Month 29-Jun Year 1817 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename William Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3088223 in the Baptisms database Day Month 05-Oct Year 1823 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Thomas Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3052047 in the Baptisms database Day Month 13-Sep Year 1829 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Jonathan Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 3088114 in the Baptisms database Day Month 30-May Year 1819 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename George Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3051996 in the Baptisms database Day Month 10-Jun Year 1825 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Surname CHIPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052067 in the Baptisms database Day Month 04-Sep Year 1831 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Josiah Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
John Chapman/Chipman ~ Oldest Child of William Chapman/Chipman and Elizabeth Moon ~ In 1841 John Chipman/Chapman is still living at home with his family at age 30 on the census record. The only members of the family missing from the 1841 census lising are Mary Chipman/Chapman who died as an infant and was born and buried in Lanlivery, William Chipman/Chapman who is living away from home having married Fanny Collett in 1839, Thomas Chipman/Chapman and Philippa Chipman/Chapman who are working at other farms as farm and domestic labor, and Mary Ann Chipman/Chapman who has also married William Dingle in 1835 and is living with her own separate family. 1841 Census Philleigh, Cornwall, England Trelassa,1,William Chipman,55,,Farmer,In county, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,,50,,In county, ,,John Chipman,30,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Margaret Chipman,,25,,In county, ,,George Chipman,20,,,In county, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,,15,,In county, Book 4 Folio 8 Page 10 ,,Samuel Chipman,14,,,In county, ,,Jonathan Chipman,11,,,In county, ,,Josiah Chipman,9,,,In county,
More information about record 3123017 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Oct Year 1809 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename John Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Transcriber M Hancock /K Halley John Chipman died at age 38 in 1847 (1809) More information about record 2349843 in the Burials database Day Month 14-Feb Year 1847 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename John Surname CHIPMAN Age 38 Residence Church Town Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	No Evidence of Marriage Found	No Evidence of Children Found
Mary Chapman/Chipman ~ 2nd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~ After their marriage, William and Elizabeth Chapman/Chipman had been in Veryan round about 1809, having been married in Lanlivery in 1808. And while at Veryan, whether with William working as Farm Labour or being there for some other reason, John Chipman/Chapman was born under the name of John Chipman (see above). And then for a time William and Elizabeth returned to Lanlivery and were there when their daughter Mary Chapman/Chipman was born as Mary Chapman in 1811. Before Mary was one year old and still considered an infant, she died and was buried at Lanlivery in 1812 as recorded below. By the time of the birth of their third child, Mary Ann, William and Elizabeth were back at Vervay and in residence there where they'd be for the births of their next six children including Mary Ann Chapman.
More information about record 1323006 in the Baptisms database Day Month 10-Nov Year 1811 Parish/Reg Dist Lanlivery Forename Mary Surname CHIPMAN Sex F Father Forename William Mother Forename Eliz'th Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Pauline Pickup	More information about record 941167 in the Burials database Day Month 05-Sep Year 1812 Parish/Reg Dist Lanlivery Forename Mary Surname CHIPMAN Age Residence Notes An infant Trans Notes Transcriber Pauline Pickup
Mary Ann [Chapman/Chipman] & William Dingle ~ 3rd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~ Mary Ann Chapman/Chipman was born at Veryan and baptized at Cuby with Tregony in 1813. She married William Dingle in 1835 and appears as his wife with their children on 1841, 1851 and 1861 Census. 1841 Census Philleigh Enumeration District 4 Civil Parish of Philleigh Book 4 Folio 3 Page 1 Rocky Lane,1,William Dingle,25,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Marianne Dingle,,25,,In county, ,,Grace Dingle,,4,,In county, ,,Alexander Dingle,2,,,In county, ,,Mariann (Jnr) Dingle,,10m,,In county, ,,John Clyma,45,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Mary Clyma,,50,,In county, ,,Ann Clyma,,15,,In county, ,,John (Jnr) Clyma,15,,Carpenter Ap.,In county, ,,Elizabeth Clyma,,13,,In county, ,,Samuel Clyma,10,,,In county, 1851 Census Gorran Folio 181 Page 7 20,Carhayes Lodge,Wm Davis,Head,M,62,,Chelsea Pensioner,Goran Cornwall,, ,,Fanny Davis,Dau,U,,21,,Carhayes Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Davis,Dau,U,,18,,Carhayes Cornwall,, ,,John Davis,Son,U,16,,,Carhayes Cornwall,, ,,Andrew Davis,Son,,12,,,Carhayes Cornwall,, 21,Hovel,William Dingle,Head,M,38,,Agricultural Labourer,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary A Dingle,Wife,M,,38,,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,Alexander Dingle,Son,,12,,Agricultural Labourer,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary A Dingle,Dau,,,10,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Richard Benjamin Dingle,Son,,7,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,William Dingle,Son,,5,,,Goran Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Dingle,Dau,,,2,,Goran Cornwall,, 1861 Census Philleigh Folio 96 Page 11 ,,,Mary Bean,Servnt,W,,61,Servant,Veryan Cornwall,, 53,Treworthall,1,William Dingle,Head,M,48,,Farmer 80 Acres,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Mary A Dingle,Wife,M,,48,,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,,Grace Dingle,Dau,U,,24,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Alexander Dingle,Son,U,22,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Mary A Dingle,Dau,U,,20,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,William Dingle,Son,,16,,,Gorran Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Dingle,Dau,,,12,Scholar,Gorran Cornwall,,
William Dingle = Mary Ann Chapman/Chipman b Philleigh b Veryan cb 3 Nov 1812 cb 24 Jul 1813 Philleigh Cuby w Tregony m 17 Oct 1835 Philleigh Grace Dingle Alexander Dingle Mary A Dingle Richard Benjamin Dingle William Dingle Elizabeth Dingle b 8 Jul 1836 b Oct 1838 b Jul 1840 b Feb 1843 b 1845 b 1848 Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Gorran Gorran cb 29 Sep 1836 cb 8 Nov 1838 cb 23 Oct 1840 cb 23 Mar 1843 Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh Philleigh d 1855 db 22 May 1855 Philleigh age 12
More information about record 3087915 in the Baptisms database Day Month 24-Jul Year 1813 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Mary Ann Surname CHAPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elisabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 522154 in the Baptisms database Day Month 03-Nov Year 1812 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William Surname DINGLE Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Bridget Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Furse trans Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 950656 in the Marriages database Day Month 17-Oct Year 1835 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn William Groom Sn DINGLE Groom Age Groom Residence otp Groom Condition bach. Groom Rank Pro Grm Sign/Mark S/M s Groom Father Name Grm Fthr Rank Pro Bride Fn Mary Ann Bride Sn CHIPMAN Bride Age Bride Residence otp Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name Brd Fthr Rank Pro Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 Wm Witness Sn1 DINGLE Witness Fn2 James Witness Sn2 RUSSELL Other Info Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349903 in the Burials database Day Month 22-May Year 1855 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Richard Berryman Surname DINGLE Age 12 Residence St Michael Carhayes Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly (Richard Benjamin Dingle)	More information about record 186624 the Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit St Mawes Wesleyan Chapel Forename Grace Surname DINGLE Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Mary Ann Residence Treworlas Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Father Rank Pro Husbandman Day Month 29-Sep Year 1836 Age 08-07-1836 Where Baptised Register Notes Mary Ann dau of William & Elizabeth Chipman Trans Notes Transcriber Carol Hughes More information about record 176158 the Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit St Mawes Wesleyan Methodist Forename Alexander Surname DINGLE Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Mary Anne Residence Treworlas Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 08-Nov Year 1838 Age 3w Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 176209 the Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit St Mawes Wesleyan Methodist Forename Mary Ann Surname DINGLE Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Mary Ann Residence Treworlas Philleigh Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 23-Oct Year 1840 Age 11w Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 176256 the Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit St Mawes Wesleyan Methodist Forename Richard Benjamin Surname DINGLE Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Mary Ann Residence Treworlas Philleigh Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 23-Mar Year 1843 Age 1m Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
Margaret [Chapman/Chipman] & Alexander Dingle 1851 Census Philleigh Alexander Dingle moved into Ruan Lanihorne with his new wife Mary Ann Dingle as Margaret had died in 1850. 6,Ruan High Lanes,Alexander Dingle,Head,M,34,,Ag Lab,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary A Dingle,Wife,M,,36,,Ruan Lanihorne Cornwall,, [Margaret had died/31 May 1850/ and then Alexander remarried.] ,,Alexander Dingle,Son,U,7,,Scholar,Philleigh Cornwall,, [These two Children ,,Elizabeth Dingle,Daught,U,,6,,Philleigh Cornwall,, are Margaret's Children] Marriage Entry of Alexander Dingle and Margaret Chipman
More information about record 3088002 in the Baptisms database Day Month 21-Jul Year 1815 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Margaret Surname CHAPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3051902 in the Baptisms database Day Month 27-Mar Year 1817 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Alexander Surname DINGLE Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Bridget Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes privately - publickly on Nov 2nd Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349868 in the Burials database Day Month 31-May Year 1850 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Margaret Surname DINGLE Age 34 Residence Tregearoon In Gerrans Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 950678 in the Marriages database Day Month 06-Oct Year 1841 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Alexander Groom Sn DINGLE Groom Age full Groom Residence Treworthal, Philleigh Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Pro farm labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M s Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farm labourer Bride Fn Margaret Thomas Bride Sn CHIPMAN Bride Age full Bride Residence Treluzza, Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro domestic servant Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name William Brd Fthr Rank Pro farmer Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 William (mark of) Witness Sn1 CHIPMAN Witness Fn2 William Witness Sn2 DINGLE Other Info Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly Alexander's Second Marriage More information about record 1080269 in the Marriages database Day Month 22-Dec Year 1850 Parish/Reg Dist Ruan Lanihorne Groom Fn Alexander Groom Sn DINGLE Groom Age 34 Groom Residence Ruan High Lanes Groom Condition W Groom Rank Pro Husbandman Grm Sign/Mark S/M S Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro Husbandman Bride Fn Mary Ann Bride Sn DINGLE Bride Age 36 Bride Residence Ruan High Lanes Bride Condition S Bride Rank Pro Brd Sign/Mark S/M S Bride Father Name Richard Brd Fthr Rank Pro Yeoman Banns/Licence B/L B Witness Fn1 Richard Witness Sn1 Dingle Witness Fn2 Catherine Witness Sn2 Bunes? Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber C Hughes/ J Mitchell	More information about record 3052187 in the Baptisms database Day Month 04-Aug Year 1843 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Alexander Surname DINGLE Sex son Father Forename Alexander Mother Forename Margaret Residence Church Town, Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes privately - received into the Church Oct 29th 1843 Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052200 in the Baptisms database Day Month 03-Nov Year 1844 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Chipman Surname DINGLE Sex dau Father Forename Alexander Mother Forename Margaret Residence Church Town, Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
William Chapman/Chipman & Fanny Collett ~ William Chipman & Maria Coombs? Six Decades of Census Snapshots of William Chipman's Family 1841-1891 1841 1841 Census St Just in Roseland 1841 Census, St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England Lane,1,William Chipman,20,,Agricultural Labourer,In county, [Age 24-1841 Census round down] ,,Fanny Chipman,,25,,In county, [Age 29-1841 Census round down] ,,Mary Chipman,,8m,,In county, ,,William Collett,65,,Shoe Maker,In county, [Grandpa William Collett, Shoemaker-Fanny's Father] Lane,1,John Vincent,40,,Agricultural Labourer,In county, ,,Ann Vincent,,30,,In county, ,,Mary Vincent,,13,,In county, ,,Elisabeth Vincent,,10,,In county, ,,John Vincent,5,,,In county, Book 11 Folio 11 Page 15 1851 1851 Census, St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England Folio 297 Page 13 49,St. Just Lane,William Pascoe,Head,M,72,,Mason,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Mary Pascoe,Wife,M,,54,Tayloress,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Catherine Pascoe,Dau,U,,27,Sowing Girl,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Grace Ralf,Niece,U,,14,House Servant,St. Just Cornwall,, 50,St. Just Lane,William Chipman,Head,M,34,,Ag Lab,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,Fanny Chipman,Wife,M,,39,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary Chipman,Dau,U,,13,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, [Census age error, age 10 NOT 13] ,,Elizabeth Ann Chipman,Dau,U,,8,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,William Chipman,Son,U,5,,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Chipman,Dau,U,,3,Scholar,St. Just Cornwall,, ,,Samuel Chipman,Son,U,8m,,,St. Just Cornwall,, 1861 1861 Census, St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall, England Polin: William Chipman,Head,M,43,,Ag Lab,Veryan Cornwall [2nd Great Grandfather] Fanny Chipman,Wife,M,,49,,Philleigh Cornwall [2nd Great Grandmother] John Chipman,Son,,7,,,St Just Cornwall Grace Chipman,Dau,,,4,,Gerrans Cornwall [Great Grandmother] Compare the transcription to the original 1861 Census entry. Fanny [Collett] Chipman died and was buried in April 1865. William Chipman in the 3rd quarter [Jul-Aug-Sep] of that same year, 1865, married a Maria Coombs, which certified copy of the marriage event can be ordered from the General Registry Office of England. The needed details are that it was Registered at the Truro District, though the marriage may have been so performed any where in the district. The Volume is 5C, the page is 261. The connecting links are children John and Grace. John was 7 in 1861 and Grace age 4 when mother Fanny was alive and living. Then in 1871 John is age 17 and Grace age 14 but with new step mother Maria, which connects the two listings as being the same family unit but just with an new mother for the deceased mother. By the 1871 Census, below, they are living in the parish of Cubert with both John and Grace still living with them. Then in 1881 they have moved again to Talland, which likely answers a question as to how Philip Trout Hender and Grace Chipman did meet and where. And then again in 1891 William and his wife are to be found in Pelant. So first just where was Maria Coombs in 1861 and what was she doing? Read it for yourself: 1861 Maria Coombs was an unmarried house servant age 37, born in Gerrans, Cornwall [Note: So you think it is easy to transcribe the cursed cursive handwritting of the Census? Try it.] 1871 1871 Census Cubert Enumeration District 5 Civil Parish of Cubert, Eccl. District of - Folio 79 Page 1 . . . Folio 82 Page 8 ,,,Ann Maria Roberts,Servnt,U,,37,General Servant,St Columb Minor Cornwall,, ,,,Thomas Brokenshire,Servnt,U,19,,Farm Servant Indoor,Cubert Cornwall,, 30,Gaines Farm,1,John Rundle,Head,M,63,,Farmer,Myrther Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Rundle,Wife,M,,56,Farmers Wife,St Columb Major Cornwall,, ,,,William Neal,Reltiv,U,51,,Ag Lab,St Columb Major Cornwall,, ,,,Jane Julian,Servnt,U,,18,General Serv Domestic,Roach Cornwall,, 31,Gaiines Cot,1,William Chipman,Head,M,52,,Ag Lab,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,,Maria Chipman,Wife,M,,48,Ag Lab Wife,Gerrans Cornwall,, [2nd wife Step-grandmother] ,,,John Chipman,Son,U,17,,Ag Lab,St Just Roseland Cornwall,, [Great Uncle John Chipman] ,,,Grace Chipman,Dau,,,14,Ag Lab,Gerrans Cornwall,, [Great Grandmother Grace Chipman] ,,,John Coam,Boardr,,13,,Mine Lab,Gerrans Cornwall,, 1881 1881 Census dsdsdsdsdsdsEnumeration District 7 Civil Parish of Talland, Eccl. District of Talland Folio 69 Page 1 . . . Talland - West Looe area 1881 Folio 70 Page 4 14,East Wayland,1,Charles Stephens,Head,W,45,,Agricultural Labourer,Looe Cornwall,, ,,,Ellen Stephens,Dau,S,,22,House Keeper,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Mary J. Stephens,Dau,S,,20,,Pelynt Cornwall,, ,,,Thomas E. Stephens,Son,S,15,,Agricultural Labourer,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,James Stephens,Son,,13,,Agricultural Labourer,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Emma P. Stephens,Dau,,,11,Scholar,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Joseph B. Stephens,Son,,9,,Scholar,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Arthur Stephens,Son,,7,,Scholar,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Ernest Stephens,Son,,6,,Scholar,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Barnard Stephens,Son,,2,,,Talland Cornwall,, 15,Killmanorth,1,Mary Ann Searle,Head,W,,72,Farmr 278a Emp 3 Men 2 Boys,\- Unknown,, ,,,William Searle,Son,S,43,,Farmers Son,Lanreath Cornwall,, ,,,John Searle,Son,S,35,,Farmers Son,Lanreath Cornwall,, ,,,Henry Searle,Son,S,35,,Farmers Son,Talland Cornwall,, ,,,Mabel Searle,Grndau,,,7,Scholar,Lanreath Cornwall,, ,,,Emma Butters,Servnt,S,,20,General Servt. Dom,Duloe Cornwall,, ,,,Susan Jane Hills,Servnt,S,,17,General Servt.Dom,Duloe Cornwall,, ,,,Thomas Tamblyn,Servnt,S,18,,Farm Servt.,Pelynt Cornwall,, ,,,Charles Pollard,Servnt,,13,,Farm Servt.,Duloe Cornwall,, 16,East Watergate Cottage,1,William Chipman,Head,M,64,,Agr. Labourer,Verrion Cornwall, [Veryan] ,,,Maria Chipman,Wife,M,,58,,Gerrans Cornwall,, [2nd wife-stepgrandmother] 1891 1891 Census - Pelyant Enumeration District 5 (Continued) Civil Parish of Pelynt, Eccl. Parish of Pelynt Folio 41 Page 8 . . . 83,Pelynt Village,1,William Chipman,Head,M,73,,Farm Laborer,Employed,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,,Maria Chipman,Wife,M,,68,,,Germans* Cornwall,, 84,Pelynt Village,1,Ann Symons,Head,W,,58,Charwoman,Employed,Pelynt Cornwall,, ,,,James Symons,Son,S,30,,,,Duloe Cornwall,Spinal,weak spine 85,Pelynt Village,1,Joseph Pinch,Head,M,36,,Farm Laborer,Employed,Pelynt Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Pinch,Wife,M,,37,,,Looe Cornwall,, ,,,James Pinch,Son,S,4,,Scholar,,Pelynt Cornwall,, Folio 45 Page 15 * Here the transcriber corrupted 'Gerrans' to 'Germans'. 1891 Census of William Chipman and His Second Wife Maria Coombs at Pelynt Village By the time that William Chipman dies in 1895, he and Maria Coombs will may have been living as husband and wife for over 25 and possibly nearly some 30 years. Now some researchers think that if it is not in the parish records available then it IS NOT. And though the Census record of 1851 lists two children, one named Elizabeth Ann Chipman and the other just Elizabeth Chipman, both daughters of William and Fanny Collett, they still question the fact of the matter. Now Elizabeth Ann Chipman's Christian baptism is a matter of parish record as summarized below in the children's list. But the other Elizabeth Chipman is not, so they expect a census error, which errors do happen. So at this point I'll introduct an actual Certified Copy of a Birth Entry obtained from the General Registry Office of London which ought to resolve any questions upon the matter for it is the entry of birth of Eliza Chipman, daughter of William Chipman and Fanny Collett. And Eliza is Elizabeth, so there were two duaghters so named 'Elizabeth', one Elizabeth Ann Chipmand and the other Eliza Chipman, one in 1843 or so christened then on January 1st, and the other born in 1847, August the 25th.
More information about record 3088053 in the Baptisms database Day Month 29-Jun Year 1817 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename William Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 522148 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Mar Year 1812 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Fanny Surname COLLETT Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Ann Residence Father Rank Pro Notes Trans Notes Furse trans Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349962 in the Burials database Day Month 30-Apr Year 1865 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Fanny Surname CHIPMAN Age 53 Residence Gerrans Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 1536829 in the Burials database Day Month 25-Dec Year 1895 Parish/Reg Dist Perranzabuloe Forename William Surname CHIPMAN Age 77 Residence Bolingey Perran Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Karen Duvall	More information about record 950670 in the Marriages database Day Month 01-Jun Year 1839 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn William Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age full Groom Residence Trelissa? Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Prof labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M m Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Fanny Bride Sn COLLETT Bride Age full Bride Residence Treworthal Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro - Brd Sign/Mark S/M s Bride Father Name William Brd Fthr Rank Pro shoemaker Banns/Licence B/L - Witness Fn1 William Witness Sn1 COLLETT Witness Fn2 Robert Davey Witness Sn2 COLLETT Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly After death of Fanny [Collett] Chipman in 1865, William remarries Maria ?Coombs? later that same year as registered at Truro, 3rd quarter, Volume 5C, Page 261, Line # 9. One can Order the certified copy from General Register's Office for the marriage details. First Two Children with Name Spelling Variations from norm to be noted. More information about record 1267755 in the Baptisms database Day Month 18-Oct Year 1840 Parish/Reg Dist St Just Roseland Forename Mary Collet Surname CHICKMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Fthr Rank Prof shoemaker Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 1267810 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Jan Year 1843 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Elizabeth Anne Surname CHIKMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Pro shoemaker Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 1267897 in the Baptisms database Day Month 26-Apr Year 1846 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename William Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly Certified Copy of Birth above: Eliza [Elizabeth] Chipman born 25 August 1847 St Just Lane, St Just Father: William Chipman labourer Mother: Fanny Chipman formerly Collett *Certified copy of entry of Birth from Gen. Reg. Off. Eng. (See same above.) More information about record 1268026 in the Baptisms database Day Month 01-Sep Year 1850 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland, Forename Samuel George Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3034908 in the Baptisms database Day Month 08-Jan Year 1854 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename John Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes film 2276152 image 1303 entry 21 Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3086546 in the Baptisms database Day Month 14-Jun Year 1857 Parish/Reg Dist Gerrans Forename Grace Surname CHIPMAN Sex - Father Forename William Mother Forename Fanny Residence Trewince Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes - Trans Notes - Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
George Chapman/Chipman & Mary Tonkin The wife of George Chapman is the daughter of Thomas Tonkin and Susanna Shepherd. Thomas Tonkin was a miner until his older age when he turned to being a farmer. They lived in the areas of Kea, Kenwyn, Perranzabuloe and Chacewater. As George did not marry until 1843 and then he died in 1849, he never appeared with his family on any census record. But Mary did as she is still living with her father in 1841 on that census, and she has returned 'home' to live with him again after George's death and can be found there in 1851 and 1861 as follows below. The one question concerns Amy H Chapman as according to the 1861 census, if she is Mary's daughter the census depicts that she was born after 1849. The fact that George had died is confirmed by the fact that in both 1851 and 1861, Mary is listed as a 'W', this is Widow. But there is an Amy Chapman whose baptism was in Gulval in 1853, daughter of Joseph an Elizabeth Chapman. And if that Elizabeth is Thomas Tonkin's daughter then it maybe that Amy is just visiting Grandpa and her cousins. 1841 Census Perranzabuloe Book 11 Folio 95 Page 17 . . . Reen-Common,1,Thomas Tonkin,50,,Miner Lead,In county, ,,Mary Tonkin,,15,,In county, [1841 rounding age 15-19/likely 18] [She was married in 1843 at age 20 with parent's consent.] 1851 Census, of Perranzabuloe, Cornwall, England: 7,Goonhaven,Thomas Tonkin,Head,W,62,,Farmer Of 6 Acres,St. Mabyn Cornwall,, ,,Mary Chapman,Daugh,W,,24,,Bodmin Cornwall,, ,,Jonathan Chapman,Nephw,U,7,,Scholar,Philleigh Cornwall,, [Jonathan must be Joshua] ,,Elizabeth Ann Chapman,Niece,U,,5,Scholar,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary Jane Chapman,Niece,U,,3,,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, Folio 438 Page 3 1861 Census Perranzabuloe, Folio 67 Page 2 . . . 7,Goonhavorn,1,Thomas Tonkin,Head,,76,,Farmer 9 Acres,St Mabyn Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Chapman,Dau,W,,36,Housekeeper,Bodmin Cornwall,, ,,,Joshua Chapman,Grnson,,17,,Tin Miner,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Chapman,Grndau,,,15,Tin Dresser,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Jane Chapman,Grndau,,,13,Scholar,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, ,,,Amy H Chapman,Grndau,,,9,Scholar,Perranzabuloe Cornwall,, [we may guess as to Amy]* * My guess is that George who died at age 29 at the end of September 1849 and Mary his wife had just participated in a conception and the child what born about the first of June, 1850. Thus she would not be full age of 10 until June of 1861. And there for Amy was not yet 10 but still 9 for the 1861 Census. Widow Mary on the 1851 just did not have the baby with her or she was sleeping and missed the 1851 counting when she was still not age 1, but just some months, 9-11 months, at that time. Counting full age is just funny that way sometimes. Or just easier, the age was miscounted by a year because she really should have been age 10. It is a bit harder for people that don't read and write to keep track of things that way you know. Note she just places her Mark on her marriage entry of X. That's my guess. After all on the 1851 Census Thomas Tonkin the father was 62 and his daughter Mary Chapman was 24. In 1861 Thomas Tonkin is age 76 and his daughter Mary Chapman is 36. AND his nieces and nephew have grown up to be his grandchildren. Amazing! But there they are still of #7 Goonhavorn or is it Goonhaven? It is kind of like the game of gossip where you start the story at one end of the line and you get some- thing totally different back out at the other end of the line, only this is called recordkeeping. Marriage Entry for George Chipman and Mary Tonkin
More information about record 3088114 in the Baptisms database Day Month 30-May Year 1819 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename George Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3224592 in the Baptisms database Day Month 18-May Year 1823 Parish/Reg Dist Kenwyn Forename Mary Surname TONKIN Sex Father Forename Thomas Mother Forename Susannah Residence Chacewater Father Rank Pro Miner Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Carol Hughes And George also died in 1849 at age 29 (1820/19) More information about record 2349861 in the Burials database Day Month 30-Sep Year 1849 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename George Surname CHIPMAN Age 29 Residence Penryn In St Gluvias Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	George had married in 43 but was dead in 49. More information about record 950684 in the Marriages database Day Month 06-May Year 1843 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn George Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age full Groom Residence Treluzza in Philleigh Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Pro farm labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M m Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Mary Bride Sn TONKIN Bride Age 20 Bride Residence Treluzza in Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro domestic servant Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name Thomas Brd Fthr Rank Pro farm labourer Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 Thos Witness Sn1 TONKEN Witness Fn2 William (mark of) Witness Sn2 CHIPMAN Other Information with consent of parents Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 3052192 in the Baptisms database Day Month 28-Apr Year 1844 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Joshua Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename George Mother Forename Mary Residence Trebuzza in Philleigh Father Rank Pro farm labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052222 in the Baptisms database Day Month 19-Jul Year 1846 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Ann Surname CHIPMAN Sex dau Father Forename George Mother Forename Mary Residence Trebuzza in Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052265 in the Baptisms database Day Month 03-Nov Year 1850 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Mary Jane Surname CHIPMAN Sex dau Father Forename George Mother Forename Mary Residence Goonhaven in Perranzabuloe Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
Philippa [Chapman/Chipman] & Joseph Long This first record is the record of the parental family of Joseph Long with Joseph and his siblings who were then living at home: 1841 Census Philleigh Book 4 Folio 11 Page 17 Treworthal,1,George Bennett,55,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Ann Bennett,,55,,In county, ,,Jane Bennett,,15,,In county, ,,Wilmot Rickard,35,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,William Rickard,14,,,In county, ,,Priscilla Rickard,,10,,In county, ,,Ann Rickard,,7,,In county, Treworthal,1,William Long,55,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Eleanor Long,,60,,In county, ,,James Long,20,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Joseph Long,20,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,William (Jnr) Long,25,,Ag. Lab,In county, ,,Mariann Long,,20,,In county, I've not found the Joseph Long family on the 1851 Census record as it was not on the Philleigh Census provided - but I did find the father of Joseph Long whose wife Eleanor died and was buried 5 December 1842 at Philleigh. William then remarried Mary Miners who was also a widower. They married on 8 February 1844 at Philleigh. And is with this Mary that William the father of Joseph does appear with on the 1851 census record of Philleigh here shown: Folio 236 Page 6 17,Treworthall,William Long,Head,M,68,,Farmer & Boatman,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Mary Long,Wife,M,,60,,St. Mewan Cornwall,, 1861 Census Philleigh Folio 93 Page 5 20,Church Town,1,Mary Benney,Head,U,,60,Pauper,Kenwyn Cornwall,, ,,,Jane Benney,Dau,U,,21,,Philleigh Cornwall,, 21,Church Town,1,Richard Crewes,Head,M,79,,Ag Lab,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,,Paulina Crewes,Wife,M,,68,,Gerrans Cornwall,, 22,Church Town,1,Philippa Bennet,Head,M,,59,Washerwoman,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,James Bennet,Son,,17,,Ag Lab,Philleigh Cornwall,, 23,Church Town,1,Joseph Long,Head,M,41,,Ag Lab,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Philippa Long,Wife,M,,40,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Samuel Long,Son,,13,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Long,Dau,,,7,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Richard Long,Son,,5,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Henry Long,Son,,3,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,William G Long,Son,,7m,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, Marriage Entry for Joseph Long and Philippa Chipman
More information about record 3088176 in the Baptisms database Day Month 03-Jun Year 1821 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Philippa Surname CHAPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record 3051929 in the Baptisms database Day Month 31-Oct Year 1819 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Joseph Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Eleanor Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2350108 in the Burials database Day Month 16-Mar Year 1888 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Philippa Surname LONG Age 67 Residence Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2350158 in the Burials database Day Month 24-Dec Year 1899 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Joseph Surname LONG Age 79 Residence Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 950694 in the Marriages database Day Month 09-Apr Year 1846 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Joseph Groom Sn LONG Groom Age full Groom Residence Treworthal in Philleigh Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Pro farm labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M s Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro boatman Bride Fn Philippa Bride Sn CHIPMAN Bride Age full Bride Residence Churchtown Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro domestic servant Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name William Brd Fthr Rank Pro farmer Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 William (mark of) Witness Sn1 CHIPMAN Witness Fn2 Richard D Witness Sn2 HITCHENS Other Info Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052220 in the Baptisms database Day Month 21-Jun Year 1846 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Treworthal in Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349850 in the Burials database Day Month 28-Jan Year 1848 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William Surname LONG Age 1 1/2 Residence Treworthal Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052240 in the Baptisms database Day Month 16-Apr Year 1848 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Samuel Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Treworthal in Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 3052259 in the Baptisms database Day Month 30-Dec Year 1849 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Joseph Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Treworthal in Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349997 in the Burials database Day Month 03-Apr Year 1870 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Joseph Surname LONG Age 20 Residence Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052305 in the Baptisms database Day Month 30-Oct Year 1853 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Eleanor Leavers Surname LONG Sex dau Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Church Town Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052319 in the Baptisms database Day Month 25-Dec Year 1855 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Richard Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Philleigh Church Town Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2350006 in the Burials database Day Month 20-Apr Year 1871 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Richard Surname LONG Age 15 Residence Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052340 in the Baptisms database Day Month 27-Jun Year 1858 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Henry Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052361 in the Baptisms database Day Month 30-Dec Year 1860 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William George Surname LONG Sex son Father Forename Joseph Mother Forename Philippa Residence Philleigh Father Rank Pro labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
Thomas Chapman/Chipman & Elizabeth Waters Thomas Chipman was married 24 July 1852 to Elizabeth Waters, by January 21, 1853 Thomas was dead and buried. The marriage lasted less than six full months due to Thomas' untimely death. Life is/was not an easy matter during these times in England. Many were being put out of work by industrialization of the world. That is in making thing in the industries many menial jobs were no longer available to the people. The best match that I can make for Elizabeth Waters with a father named John Trevenna is the case of Elizabeth having taken her mother's maiden name because she was born out of marriage when her mother, Jane Waters, was in the workhouse at Kenwyn. And though there was no marriage it would seem that Elizabeth did know the name of her father, John Trevenna or the name of her presumed gardian, in order to have it place upon her marriage entry as seen in full below. And just when life seems to have cut her a break, her new husband dies. If it wasn't true life you just would not believe it. 1851 Census Philleigh (?under name Chapman and place of birth Philleigh?) Folio 240a Page 16 48,Polmesk,Nicholas Adams,Head,M,49,,Farmer Of 100 Acres Empl 1 Lab,St. Erme Cornwall,, ,,Mary Adams,Wife,M,,45,,St. Allen Cornwall,, ,,Oliver Adams,Son,U,9,,,St. Erme Cornwall,, ,,Nicholas Adams,Son,U,8,,,St. Erme Cornwall,, ,,Elizabeth Adams,Daugh,U,,7,,St. Erme Cornwall,, ,,Jane Adams,Daugh,U,,4,,St. Erme Cornwall,, ,,Harriet Adams,Daugh,U,,2,,St. Erme Cornwall,, ,,Mary Ann Stevens,Serv,U,,22,House Serv,St. Hilary Cornwall,, ,,Thomas Chapman,Serv,U,29,,Farm Serv,Philleigh Cornwall,,
More information about record ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 05-Oct Year 1823 Parish/Reg Dist Cuby w Tregony Forename Thomas Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Veryan Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber J Hogben /M Cordrey More information about record ####### in the Burials database Day Month 21-Jan Year 1853 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Thomas Surname CHIPMAN Age 29 Residence Treworthal In Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record* ###### in the Marriages database Day Month 24-Jul Year 1852 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Thomas Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age 30 Groom Residence Trelossa in Philleigh Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Pro labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M m Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Elizabeth Bride Sn WATERS Bride Age 29 Bride Residence Penmenna in Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro - Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name John Trevenna Brd Fthr Rank Pro miner Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 Edw Witness Sn1 MOORMAN Witness Fn2 Louisa Witness Sn2 MOORMAN Other Info Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly * OPC Parish record numbers change.	More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 05-Nov Year 1833 Parish/Reg Dist Kenwyn Forename Elizabeth Surname WATERS Sex Father Forename Mother Forename Jane Residence Kenwyn Workhouse Father Rank Pro Single Woman Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Carol Hughes
Elizabeth [Chapman/Chipman] & William Stevens 1851 Census Philleigh/Feock 65,King Harry,Wm Stevens,Head,M,30,,Ag Lab,Phileigh Cornwall,, ,,Elisabeth Stevens,Wife,M,,38,,Phileigh Cornwall,, ,,Richard Stevens,Son,,4,,,Feock Cornwall,, Folio 800 Page 18 1861 Census Philleigh Folio 92 Page 4 14,Tulossa,1,William Chapman,Head,W,78,,Farmer Of 40 Acres,Lanlivery Cornwall, [Grandpa Chipman] ,,Sarah Chapman,Dau,W,,29,Ag Lab,Philleigh Cornwall, [Yet to identify her-an in-law-daughter] ,,Samuel Chapman,Grnson,,10,,,St Just Cornwall, [Samuel George, son Wiliam & Fanny Chipman] 15,Tulossa,1,William Stevens,Head,M,40,,Farmer 40 Acres,Philleigh Cornwall, ,,Elizabeth Stevens,Wife,M,,35,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Richard Stevens,Son,,14,,,Feock Cornwall,, ,,Margaret Stevens,Dau,,,9,,Feock Cornwall,, ,,John Stevens,Son,,1,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,William Stevens,Son,,2w,,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,Jane Julyan,Servnt,,,20,,Veryan Cornwall,, ,,Sally Stevens,,W,,59,,Probus Cornwall,, 1871 Census Philleigh 14,Trelissa,1,William Stevens,Head,M,50,,Farmer 102 Acres,Filley Cornwall, ,,,Elizabeth Stevens,Wife,M,,46,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,M. A. Stevens,Dau,U,,19,Farmer's Daughter,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,John Stevens,Son,,11,,Scholar,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,William Stevens,Son,,9,,Scholar,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Bessie Stevens,Dau,,,8,Scholar,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Annie Stevens,Dau,,,3,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,John Annear,Servnt,U,19,,Farm Servant Indoor,St Just In Roseland Cornwall,, 15,,1,James Pascoe,Head,U,59,,Retired Farmer Landowner,Paul Cornwall,, ,,,Jane Bond,Sister,W,,73,Income From Interest Of Money,Madron Cornwall,, Folio 6 Page 4 Marriage Entry of William Stevens and Elizabeth Chipman (At close inspection of the marriage entry it looks that the OPC record read the number 15 to be the 1^st?)
More information about record 3051996 in the Baptisms database Day Month 10-Jun Year 1825 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Surname CHIPMAN Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3051936 in the Baptisms database Day Month 14-May Year 1820 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William Surname STEVENS Sex son Father Forename Richard Mother Forename Ann Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 950693 in the Marriages database Day Month 01-Nov Year 1845 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn William Groom Sn STEVENS Groom Age full Groom Residence King Harry in Feock Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Pro farm labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M m Groom Father Name Richard Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Elizabeth Bride Sn CHIPMAN Bride Age 20 Bride Residence Churchtown Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro domestic in fathers house Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name William Brd Fthr Rank Pro farmer Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 William (mark of) Witness Sn1 CHIPMAN Witness Fn2 John Witness Sn2 STEVENS Other Info Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349870 in the Burials database Day Month 22-Sep Year 1850 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename James Henry Surname STEVENS Age 1y 8m Residence Sandoes In St Feock Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 2101910 in the Baptisms database Day Month 27-Dec Year 1846 Parish/Reg Dist Feock Forename Richard William Surname STEVENS Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence King Harry Father Rank Pro Husbandman Notes Trans Notes Transcriber M.Topham More information about record 2102008 in the Baptisms database Day Month 08-Apr Year 1849 Parish/Reg Dist Feock Forename James Henry Surname STEVENS Sex Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence King Harry Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber M.Topham <<<< James Henry STEVENS <<<< death and burial. Margaret A Stevens b abt 1852, Feock/Filley More information about record 3052354 in the Baptisms database Day Month 30-Oct Year 1859 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename John Surname STEVENS Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philleigh Fthr Rank Prof farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052364 in the Baptisms database Day Month 19-May Year 1861 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename William Surname STEVENS Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philleigh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly Bessie Stevens b abt 1863, Filley Annie Stevens, Filley b abt 1868, Filley
Samuel Chapman/Chipman & 1851 Census Philleigh
More information about record 3052026 in the Baptisms database Day Month 16-Sep Year 1827 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Samuel Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly Samuel died 1849-age 22 (1827) More information about record 2349862 in the Burials database Day Month 22-Nov Year 1849 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Samuel Surname CHIPMAN Age 22 Residence Trelossa In Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
Jonathan Chapman/Chipman & Mary Jane Nichols 1861 Census St Just 67,Penpeth Farm,1,Johnathan Chapman,Head,M,31,,Farmer 35 Acres,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Mary J Chapman,Wife,M,,36,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Nicholas N Chapman,Son,U,6,,Scholar,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,John Chapman,Son,U,5,,Scholar,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Chapman,Dau,,,3,Scholar,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Chapman,Dau,,,1,,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Eliza Chapman,Niece,U,,13,House Servant,St Just Cornwall,, 68,Treverras Farm,1,Richard Hicks,Head,M,72,,Farmer 72ac 1man 1boy,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Pursila Hicks,Wife,M,,60,,Gerrans Cornwall,, ,,,Mary J Hicks,Dau,U,,37,,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Thomas Hicks,Son,U,22,,,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Harriet Burnett,Niece,U,,38,Servant,St Just Cornwall,, Folio 61 Page 14 1871 Census St Just 11,Penperth,1,Jonathan Chipman,Head,M,42,,Farmer,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Mary J Chipman,Wife,M,,45,Wife,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,John Chipman,Son,U,15,,Farm Labourer,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Elizabeth Chipman,Dau,U,,13,Scholar,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Chipman,Dau,U,,10,Scholar,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,George Chipman,Son,U,9,,Scholar,St Just Cornwall,, ,,,Margret J Chipman,Infant,,,1m,,St Just Cornwall,, Folio 64 Page 4 Marriage Entry of Jonathan Chipman and Mary Jane Nichols
More information about record 3052047 in the Baptisms database Day Month 13-Sep Year 1829 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Jonathan Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 50715 in the Marriages database Day Month 29-Dec Year 1853 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Jonathan Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age 23 Groom Residence Philleigh Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Prof farmer Grm Sign/Mark S/M m Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Mary Jane Bride Sn NICHOLS Bride Age 28 Bride Residence Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro - Brd Sign/Mark S/M s Bride Father Name Henry Brd Fthr Rank Pro husbandman Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 John Witness Sn1 NICHOLS Witness Fn2 Henry Witness Sn2 NICHOLS Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 3034946 in the Baptisms database Day Month 18-Mar Year 1855 Parish/Reg Dist St Just Roseland Forename Nicholas Nicholls Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename Jonathan Mother Forename Mary Jane Residence Penpeth Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes film 2276152 image 1308 entry 59 Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3034978 in the Baptisms database Day Month 08-Jun Year 1856 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename John Surname CHIPMAN Sex Father Forename Jonathan Mother Forename Mary Jane Residence Penpeth Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes film 2276152 image 1312 entry 91 Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052338 in the Baptisms database Day Month 17-Jan Year 1858 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Elizabeth Surname CHIPMAN Sex dau Father Forename Jonathan Mother Forename Mary Jane Residence Penpeth in St Just Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052358 in the Baptisms database Day Month 17-Jun Year 1860 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Mary Surname CHIPMAN Sex dau Father Forename Jonathan Mother Forename Mary Jane Residence St Just Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 3052373 in the Baptisms database Day Month 25-May Year 1862 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename George Surname CHIPMAN Sex son Father Forename Jonathan Mother Forename Mary Jane Residence St Just Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
Josiah Chapman/Chipman & Jane Robins & Josiah Chapman & Harriett Burnett THE story of Josiah's life is not very complicated. In short Josiah marries Jane Robins, she dies and then Josiah marries Hariett Burnett. But a good English country side novelist could very well have a feast of telling of the ups and downs, the loves and losses of Josiah Chapman [Chipman]. The essential records provide the bulk of the story line. All that is left to do is add the life and color of the situations and interrelationships. Act I: Scene I is held in the grasp of the 1851 Census Record of Philleigh. The Farn of father William Chapman/Chipman is the stage and 19 year old son Josiah and 19 year old servant girl Jane Robins are the prime players in our romantic tragedy. 1851 Census Folio 241 Page 19 . . . 58,Trelussoe,William Chipman ,Head,M,67,,Farmer Of 70 Acres Ampl 1 Lab,Lanlivery Cornwall,, , ,Elizabeth Chipman,Wife,M,,65,,Pinnock Cornwall,, , ,Jonathan Chipman ,Son ,U,21,,Farmer's Son,Philleigh Cornwall,, , ,Josiah Chipman ,Son ,U,19,,Farmer's Son,Philleigh Cornwall,, , ,Jane Robins,Serv,U,,19,House Servant,Gerrans Cornwall,, Now there is even a sibling rivalry for the damsel's hand in older brother Jonathan being at hand at home as well. That is a form of the typical love triangle to be played in many possible relational ways. Now the second scene of the first Act has a comfortable resolution in the marriage of young Joseph and Jane in 1855. And they live the relative dream of happily everafter until tragically Jane dies in 1860, leaving Josiah without even a child of the marriage to befriend poor Josiah who is at a total loss except for his father William. The Transcription by Bill O'Reilly at the right was taken from the original marriage entry form presented her above. As you read through it you may want to compare it to the form by mouse clicking the form to enlarge it to be more easily read. Act II Scene I finds Josiah totally unrecognizable as to who he is, even the census transcribers deduce his name to being Sarah. They ignored the male column indicator as to age that would identify him and reported to the wourd that he is a daughter Sarah living there, now as a female instead of the the SON Josiah once was. 1861 Census - Philleigh, Trelossa Folio 92 Page 4 14,Tulossa,1,William Chapman,Head,W,78,,Farmer Of 40 Acres,Lanlivery Corn. ,,,Sarah Chapman,Dau,W,,29,Ag Lab,Philleigh Corn. ,,,Samuel Chapman,Grnson,,10,,,St Just Corn. Now the transcriber of the Census Project quickly did their 'job' but failed not only in recording the name as 'Sarah.' The name is actually Josiah. How does what appears to be get to be , that is Josiah? Notice how the 'J' in 'John and 'Jane' and how the 'S' in 'Samuel' starts from the left and not the right. The faded first letter from the census is a 'J' not 'S'. Notice also the dotting of the letter 'i' in 'Louisa' that it is high to the right. The first letter is 'J' not 'S' and then comes 'o' not 'a' which is connect to the letter 's' written from the top of the 'o' but missed due to the faded ink. That is 'Jos.' The penman then raises his pen off of the paper to write the 'iah.' Now restore the faded ink and take away the line the word in written on and the word is revealed as NOT Sarah but Josiah. Add the supporting evidence beginning with the Relation to Head of Family, as it was written that this person was a 'Son' not a daughter. And in the Age of, Males \| Females, the person in question's age of 29 was placed in the 'Males' column and NOT in the 'Females' column. Yes the ink of the writing IS faded and causes the transcriber to error, reading it as Sarah and thus also making the word Son in Dau for daughter. But how did he/she miss that the person's age of 29 was in the Males' column of the age reporting? The Romantic Tragedy continues as our lonesome widower [the 'Do' in the 'Condition' column confirms that our now identified Josiah was indeed already one married and like his father is also a widower] does pine away for a year and a half until Josiah finds a friend. Not as the youthful rushing of a first love now lost, but a quite friend in Hariett Burnett, the daughter of a ship carpenter. The motherly friendly comfort draws him in and they are married after the 1861 census, leaving us with the question for the third act, "Will their friendship marriage really last and blossom into a lasting relationship of lover or not. And then that is what Act III is all about, will they or won't they come to lasting terms with each other to the end of their days. Some of the challenges are that their are not children for hey are of the next age, and also without children in their marriage. The age old question of whether a childless marriage can really succeed without the moving force of diffinition and meaning to the marriage relationship or not. But now, as all good writers will wait and withhold out through out the ending act of the three act play, it actually come to an ending unresolved but at least the two of them in the sunset still together. And the ending moral question of the romantic tragedy becomes the unanswered question, is such as the marriage process and life all really worth it all or not. 1871 Census Philleigh / Filley Folio 9 Page 9 45,Treworthal,1,William Symons,Head,M,42,,Farm Labourer,Ruan Cornwall,, ,,,Grace Symons,Wife,M,,34,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Jane Symons,Dau,,,9,Scholar,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Mary Symons,Dau,,,7,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Ann Symons,Dau,,,5,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,William Symons,Son,,3,,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Thomas Symons,Son,,1,,,Filley Cornwall,, 46,,1,William Dingle,Head,M,25,,Farm Labourer,Gorron Cornwall,, ,,,Catherine Dingle,Wife,M,,26,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,Bessie Dingle,Dau,,,2,,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,William Dingle,Son,,10m,,,Filley Cornwall,, 47,,1,J. Chipman,Head,M,40,,Farm Labourer,Filley Cornwall,, ,,,H. Chipman,Wife,M,,41,,St. Just Cornwall,, The Census taken only wrote the lead name once though all the addresses of the page were Treworthal. 1881 Census Philleigh Folio 72 Page 8 . . . 39,White Lane,1,Josiah Chipman,Head,M,49,,Agricultural Laborer,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Harriet Chipman,Wife,M,,49,Laborers Wife (Crossed Out),St Just Cornwall,, ,,,John James,Lodger,S,21,,Carpenter,St Blazey Cornwall,, ,,,Edwin C. Bounsale,Lodger,S,21,,Carpenter,St Blazey Cornwall,, For Josiah and Hariett, as the years and then decades passed by, they did not have any children. It was just the two of them and the reality of life that not all that is expected comes to pass, but they did end up together. And even in 1891 when the Census process changed his name from Josiah to Joseph, that was just a matter of life as well. 1891 Census - Philleigh . . . 24,White Lane,1,Joseph Chapman,Head,M,59,,Farm Labour,Employed,Philleigh Cornwall,, ,,,Harriet Chapman,Wife,M,,60,,,St Just In Roseland Cornwall,, Folio 64 Page 5 Jane Robins, daughter of William & Mary Ann Robins. Harriet Burnett, daughter of John & Mary Burnett, shipwright / ship carpenter. Jane Robins = Josiah Chipman = Hariett Burnett cb 2 Jan 1831 cb 4 Sep 1831 cb 20 Oct 1822 Gerrans Philleigh St Just in R. m 29 Mar 1855 d Apr 1907 m 8 Aug 1861 Philleigh Ruan Lanihorne Philleigh db 19 Feb 1860 db 28 Jun 1907 db 16 Aug 1917 Philleigh a28 Ruan Lanihorne Ruan Lanihorne age 77 age 96
More information about record 3052067 in the Baptisms database Day Month 04-Sep Year 1831 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Josiah Surname CHAPMAN Sex son Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Philliegh Father Rank Pro farmer Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 086249 in the Baptisms database Day Month 02-Jan Year 1831 Parish/Reg Dist Gerrans Forename Jane Surname ROBINS Sex dau of Father Forename William Mother Forename Mary Ann Residence Trewithian Father Rank Pro Labourer Notes - Trans Notes - Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 2349928 in the Burials database Day Month 19-Feb Year 1860 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Forename Jane Surname CHIPMAN Age 28 Residence Philleigh Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record 950716 in the Marriages database Day Month 29-Mar Year 1855 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Josiah Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age 23 Groom Residence Trelossa in Philleigh Groom Condition bach Groom Rank Pro labourer Grm Sign/Mark S/M s Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Jane Bride Sn ROBINS Bride Age 232 Bride Residence Trelossa in Philleigh Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro - Brd Sign/Mark S/M m Bride Father Name William Brd Fthr Rank Pro labourer Banns/Licence B/L banns Witness Fn1 Elizabeth Witness Sn1 SANDOE Witness Fn2 Jane Witness Sn2 CHIPMAN Other Info Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record 950735 in the Marriages database Day Month 08-Aug Year 1861 Parish/Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Josiah Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age full Groom Residence Philleigh Groom Condition widower Groom Rank Pro farmer Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) s Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Harriet Bride Sn BURNETT Bride Age full Bride Residence St Just Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) m Bride Father Name John Brd Fthr Rank Pro ship carpenter Banns/Licence(B/L) banns Witness Fn1 Mary Jane Witness Sn1 HICKS Witness Fn2 Thomas Witness Sn2 HICKS Other Information other witness: Caroline Carter Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly
Josiah Chipman first married Jane Robins 29 March 1855. And when she died and was buried 19 February 1860, Josiah Chipman did marry again to Harriet Burnett as recorded below on 8 of August 1861, nearly a year and a half after Jane's passing. Marriage Entry for Josiah Chipman and Harriet Burnett Now often you hear of a marriage by banns. Just what are Banns? Below is shown a record of Banns that were published for Josiah Chipman and Harriet Burnett. As is seen it is a record that on three occassions notification of the up coming marriage was announced or published so that if any one knew of any reason why the marriage ought not to take place they would be able to so respond when the service of the marriage asked if there were any objections to this marriage, let them so speak now or forever hold their piece or is it peace? Anyway here is as record recording that the banns were announced or published and on what dates. Now the OPC transcription note of marriages at a certain date does come from such a form as is seen here above. The difference between the 'form' and the 'transcription' can be seen by viewing this form above and then reading and comparing to what is said in the transscription of that revord
More information about record* ###### in the Marriages database Day Month 08-Aug Year 1861 Parish Or Reg Dist Philleigh Groom Fn Josiah Groom Sn CHIPMAN Groom Age full Groom Residence Philleigh Groom Condition widower Groom Rank Pro farmer Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) s Groom Father Name William Grm Fthr Rank Pro farmer Bride Fn Harriet Bride Sn BURNETT Bride Age full Bride Residence St Just Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Pro - Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) m Bride Father Name John Brd Fthr Rank Pro ship carpenter Banns/Licence(B/L) banns Witness Fn1 Mary Jane Witness Sn1 HICKS Witness Fn2 Thomas Witness Sn2 HICKS Other Information other witness: Caroline Carter Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record* ####### in the Burials database Day Month 28-Jun Year 1907 Parish/Reg Dist Ruan Lanihorne Forename Josiah Surname CHAPMAN Age 77 Residence Treworga Notes Trans Notes Transcriber C Hughes/ J Mitchell An interesting side note to this this happy couple is now to be revealed as it is a noticable note for genealogists to so consider when things just are not adding up and allowing them to find a person's ancestors. Now Josiah Chipman/Chapman was christened in 1831, the same years as he would have been born. Son on the 1901 census when his age is reported at 70 that was correct. And when he died, though he was recorded as buries under the name of Chapman, his age was correct that in 1917 he was age 77. That is close enough for government work.	More information about record* ####### in the Burials database Day Month 16-Aug Year 1917 Parish/Reg Dist Ruan Lanihorne Forename Harriet Surname CHIPMAN Age 96 Residence The Churchtown, Ruan Lanihorne Notes Trans Notes Transcriber C Hughes/ J Mitchell Now on the other hand Hariett has always been recording her age as being the same age as Josiah. That meant they were both about 31 when they would have been married. Every Census and record she would report her age as the same within a year of her husband's age. Even in 1901 when her younger sister Jane was living with them, who was suppose to be three years younger, so also Jane's age reflected that 3 year difference. BUT NOW all this time her ancestry family has not been found due to her age reporting. It came to light at her death in 1917 when she died at her properly reported age of 96. That's 10 years older than she had been reporting herself to be. And when that is taken into consideration, YEP, suddenly right there her family does appear with her being born in 1822 instead of 1832 as to match her husband's age.
Well now, to some extend I have hopefully illustrated the type of documintation of the 'facts' which is to be put together in order to properly document a family and their linage. Perhaps an 'over-kill' in some respects, but in others still a bit of a lacking, for one does what one can and does find. One may come to a stop when one thinks they have 'all' that they need to support and identify a family 'fully'. But there is the rub! Just what does 'fully' mean? Perhaps two of my Hender family groups may illustrate. For William Hender and his wife Elizabeth Rowe I had William's will naming his children and his wife and vaious other items of documentation which seemed 'enough' for their family. But until a more recent availability came out concerning the Callington parish register entries, I did not find out that missed were three other children, who were born and died at the ages of 4, 2 and 1. Also my family of Thomas Rowe Hender and Mari anna Trout was limited to three children until within the last two recent years I also found two more sons who had died at early childhood deaths who had missed appearing on any of the census records which I had relied upon to build that family. So I ask, when is it enough? These are real people and they lived real lives which can have many twist and turns not so easily discerned by just a few kept 'day' records here and there. I suppose my conclusion is that the research is really never totally complete as something may always pop up sometime, somewhere which yields greater and fuller family information than what you may have already accumulated.
Appendix ~ Hariett Burnett's Family Found John Burnett, Fisherman, Shipwright, St Just Lane John Burnett = Mary Sarah cb 25 May 1790 St Just in R. m 16 Dec 1809 St Just in R. Humphrey Burnet Elizabeth Burnet Thomas Hicks Burnett Mary Ann Burnet John Burnett cb 22 Apr 1810 cb 26 Jan 1812 cb 20 Feb 1814 cb 20 Apr 1816 cb 22 Nov 1818 St Just in R. St Just in R. St Just in R. St Just in R. St Just in R. Richard Burnett Hariett Burnett Henry Burnett Jane Burnett cb 15 Oct 1820 cb 20 Oct 1822 cb 17 Oct 1824 cb 15 Oct 1826 St Just in R. St Just in R. St Just in R. St Just in R. m 8 Aug 1861 Philleigh = Josiah Chipman db 16 Aug 1917 Ruan Lanihorne age 96
More information about record* ###### in the Marriages database Day Month 16-Dec Year 1809 Parish Or Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Groom Fn John Groom Sn BURNET Groom Age Groom Residence otp Groom Condition Groom Rank Pro Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) m Groom Father Name Grm Fthr Rank Pro Bride Fn Mary Bride Sn SARAH Bride Age Bride Residence otp Bride Condition Bride Rank Pro Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) s Bride Father Name Brd Fthr Rank Pro Banns/Licence(B/L) licence Witness Fn1 John Witness Sn1 Chenoweth Witness Fn2 Joseph Witness Sn2 Pasco Other Information Trans Notes Transcriber Vivienne McRitchie /Bill O'Reilly More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 25-May Year 1790 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Mary Surname SARAH Sex Father Forename Mother Forename Mary Residence Father Rank Pro Notes base child Trans Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly	More information about record* 1266379 in the Baptisms database Day Month 22-Apr Year 1810 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Humphrey Surname BURNET Sex son Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Father Rank Profession Notes Easter Day Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record* 1266477 in the Baptisms database Day Month 26-Jan Year 1812 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Elizabeth Surname BURNET Sex dau Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Father Rank Profession Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Bill O'Reilly More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 20-Feb Year 1814 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Thomas Hicks Surname BURNETT Sex son Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Profession Fisherman Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 20-Apr Year 1816 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Mary Ann Surname BURNET Sex dau Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence St Just Lane Father Rank Profession Shipwright Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 22-Nov Year 1818 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename John Surname BURNETT Sex son Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Trethewel Father Rank Profession Farmer Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison	More information about record* 1266933 in the Baptisms database Day Month 15-Oct Year 1820 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Richard Surname BURNETT Sex son Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Trethewel Father Rank Profession Farmer Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 20-Oct Year 1822 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Harriet Surname BURNETT Sex dau Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Trethewel Father Rank Profession Farmer Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 17-Oct Year 1824 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Henry Surname BURNETT Sex son Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Nancarras Father Rank Profession Farmer Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 15-Oct Year 1826 Parish/Reg Dist St Just in Roseland Forename Jane Surname BURNETT Sex dau Father Forename John Mother Forename Mary Residence Nancarrow Father Rank Profession Farmer Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Kerrie Harrison

rev. 21 July 2016

G E N E A L O G Y b y t h e N U M B E R S

~ NOT JUST FILLED IN BLANKS ON A PEDIGREE ~ ~ THESE ARE REAL FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE ~

Philip David Hender and Lucille Gladys Swanner

Albert Hender and Laura Antoinette Dibble

Albert Hender's Certified Birth Record from England

Philip Trout Hender and Grace Chipman

Family Knowledge, Certificates, Certified Copies, Pictures, Census Records, Parish Records & Etcetera

Philip Trout Hender was not found on the 1871 Census but he was on the 1861 Census.

William Chipman and Fanny Collett

Some Civil Records with Parish Records and Census Decade Snapshots

William Chapman/Chipman & Elizabeth Moon

William Chipman/Chapman & Elizabeth Moon Family

John Chapman/Chipman ~ Oldest Child of William Chapman/Chipman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Mary Chapman/Chipman ~ 2nd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Mary Ann [Chapman/Chipman] & William Dingle ~ 3rd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Mary Ann [Chapman/Chipman] & William Dingle ~ 3rd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Margaret [Chapman/Chipman] & Alexander Dingle

Margaret [Chapman/Chipman] & Alexander Dingle

William Chapman/Chipman & Fanny Collett~William Chipman & Maria Coombs? Six Decades of Census Snapshots of William Chipman's Family 1841-1891

William Chapman/Chipman & Fanny Collett~William Chipman & Maria Coombs?

1841

1851

1861

1861

1871

1881

1891

George Chapman/Chipman & Mary Tonkin

Philippa [Chapman/Chipman] & Joseph Long

Philippa [Chapman/Chipman] & Joseph Long

Thomas Chapman/Chipman & Elizabeth Waters

Thomas Chapman/Chipman & Elizabeth Waters

Elizabeth [Chapman/Chipman] & William Stevens

Elizabeth [Chapman/Chipman] & William Stevens

Samuel Chapman/Chipman &

Samuel Chapman/Chipman &

Jonathan Chapman/Chipman & Mary Jane Nichols

Jonathan Chapman/Chipman & Mary Jane Nichols

Josiah Chapman/Chipman & Jane Robins &Josiah Chapman & Harriett Burnett

Appendix ~ Hariett Burnett's Family Found

~ NOT JUST FILLED IN BLANKS ON A PEDIGREE ~
~ THESE ARE REAL FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE ~

John Chapman/Chipman
~ Oldest Child of William Chapman/Chipman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Mary Chapman/Chipman
~ 2nd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Mary Ann [Chapman/Chipman] & William Dingle
~ 3rd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~

Mary Ann [Chapman/Chipman] & William Dingle
~ 3rd Child of William Chipman/Chapman and Elizabeth Moon ~

William Chapman/Chipman & Fanny Collett
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William Chipman & Maria Coombs?

Six Decades of Census Snapshots of William Chipman's Family 1841-1891

William Chapman/Chipman & Fanny Collett
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William Chipman & Maria Coombs?

Josiah Chapman/Chipman & Jane Robins
&
Josiah Chapman & Harriett Burnett