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The OPC transcriptions compares well to the Callington Heritage records. Transcribers make errors, even the same one. Venterden is Venterdon. William's age 60 matches his certified death entry and Elizabeth's would likewise be presumed she was 57 at death and born (1850-57=1793) in 1792/3 with no baptism record acceptable before that dating. |
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Now the critical information of the certified copy reads as follows:
When and Where died: 5 August 1848 Venterdon Stoke Climsland.
Name and surname: William Hender. Sex: Male. Age: 60 years.
Occupation: Watch and Clock Maker.
Cause of death: Inflamation in the Chest; Not Certified.
Signiture, description and residence of informant: Wm Nottle, In Attendance, Stoke Climsland.
When registered: Seventh August 1848.
Signiture of registrar: ______ ______ Registrar.
Now even still, with an age solution in hand for Elizabeth Rowe, there are a number of things to check out in elimiating possiblities to narrow it down to the single remaining possibility that is within grasp. Thus what is or will be presented here, is as good and close as it has come over years of working the matter out. And still it could be toppled by an emergence of solid fact. But at least it is not just a quick jab at the answer taken without a through evaluation of what there is or appears to be had on the matter.
Robert Philips, named as a sojourner in records further below:
Robert Philips = Mary Deacon
of St Cleather |
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m 9 Oct 1738 |
Altarnun |
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Elizabeth Phillips Mary Philips // John Sleep
cb ? ? 1739 cb 26 Jul 1742 |
St Clether Altarnun |
/ = William Rowe |
| m 25 May 1767 |
| Altarnun Elizabeth Philips[base]
| cb 21 Dec 1760
William Rowe** Altarnun
Philips
cb 2 Feb 1767
Altanun (base)
** NOTE: There are two entries/transcriptions of the 'base' child of Elizabeth Phillips.
Both are give below in the third column. One, the BT, give the child's name as simply
William Philips after the name of the mother. The other entry gives the same child's name
as 'William Rowe Philips' with only a reference number 1545200-856. From further 'family'
records below the matter seems that this William Rowe Philips becomes known by either/both
names of Rowe and/or Philips, likely after his father, who is further presumed to be the
some William Rowe that Elizabeth Phillips does actually end up marrying.
More information about record*
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Day Month 09-Oct
Year 1738
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Groom Fn Robert
Groom Sn PHILIPS
Groom Age
Groom Residence St Cleather
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Pro
Grm Sign/Mark(S/M)
Groom Father Name
Grm Fthe Rank Pro
Bride Fn Mary
Bride Sn DEACON
Bride Age
Bride Residence
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Pro
Brd Sign/Mark(S/M)
Bride Father Name
Brd Fthr Rank Pro
Banns/Licence(B/L)
Witness Fn1
Witness Sn1
Witness Fn2
Witness Sn2
Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber M Gabriel
/K Halley
More information about record*
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Day Month ?-?
Year 1739
Parish/Reg Dist St Clether
Forename Elizabeth
Surname PHILLIPS
Sex
Father Forename Robert
Mother Forename Mary
Residence sojourner
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes
Transcriber Christopher
Dean
More information about record*
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Day Month 26-Jul
Year 1742
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Mary
Surname PHILIPS
Sex dau
Father Forename Robert
Mother Forename Mary
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-847
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 21-Dec
Year 1760
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Elizabeth
Surname PHILLIPS
Sex dau
Father Forename John Sleep
Mother Forename Mary PHILLIPS
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes bastard
Trans Notes BTs
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 02-Feb
Year 1767
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename William
Surname PHILIPS
Sex son
Father Forename
Mother Forename Elizabeth PHILIPS
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes bastard
Trans Notes BTs
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 02-Feb
Year 1767
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename William Rowe
Surname PHILIPS
Sex
Father Forename
Mother Forename Elizabeth Philips
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes Bastard
Trans Notes ref 1545200-856
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
[Note: The presumption is the ROWE
Name was that of the father who
Elizabeth does eventually marry
as supported by what is reported
in further family records below
and as transcribed elsewhere as
ROWE AND/OR PHILIPS]
Elizabeth Philips = William Rowe**
cb ? ? 1739 | cb 24 Dec 1727
St Clether | Altarnun
m 25 May 1767 |
Altarnun |
{Son Born before Marriage} |
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___________________|_______________________________________________
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William Rowe [or] Philips Mary Row Ruben Row Richard Rowe Elizabeth Row/Raw Rolph Rowe
cb 2 Feb 1767 cb 20 Mar 1768 cb 28 Feb 1769 cb 15 Oct 1770 cb 5 Oct 1773 cb 20 Apr 1778
Altarnun Altarnun Altarnun Altarnun Altarnun Altarnun
(Notes father as
the Older a.51)*
* The need for this note is that THERE IS two William Rowes, the other father age 51+1727=1778 baptism
and William Rowe of 1767 baptism age in family age 11 or more.
** His parents are Robert Rowe and Grace (see below)
More information about record*
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Day Month 25-May
Year 1767
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Groom Fn William
Groom Sn ROWE
Groom Age
Groom Residence Altarnun
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Pro
Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) M
Groom Father Name
Grm Fthr Rank Pro
Bride Fn Elizabeth
Bride Sn PHILIPS
Bride Age
Bride Residence Altarnun
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Pro
Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) M
Bride Father Name
Brd Fthr Rank Pro
Banns/Licence(B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Robert
Witness Sn1 Phillips
Witness Fn2 Henry
Witness Sn2 Chapman
Other Information banns pub.
10/17/24-May
1767
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber M Gabriel
/K Halley
More information about record*
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Day Month 20-Mar
Year 1768
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Mary
Surname ROW
Sex dau
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Eliz.
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-856
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 28-Feb
Year 1769
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Ruben
Surname ROW
Sex son
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-857
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 15-Oct
Year 1770
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Richd.
Surname ROWE
Sex son
Father Forename Wm.
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes BTs
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 15-Oct
Year 1770
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Richard
Surname ROW
Sex son
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-858
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record*
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Day Month 05-Oct
Year 1773
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Elizabeth
Surname RAW
Sex dau
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-861
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
[Note: NO RAW in Altarnun
only ROW/ROWE familes.]
More information about record*
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Day Month 20-Apr
Year 1778
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Rolph
Surname ROWE
Sex son
Father Forename William
The Older
Mother Forename Elizabeth
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-866
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
[Note: The Older may mean
a younger William is about or
just that this William is 51
or older and still having kids.]
William Rowe [Philips] = Catherine Rowe
cb 2 Feb 1767 |
Altarnun |
m 25 Nov 1793 |
Altarnun |
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Elizabeth ROWE Catherine Rowe* Ann Rowe* George Row* William Row
cb 2 Mar 1794 b 9 Oct 1796 b 7 Nov 1802 b 6 Dec 1804 b 7 Feb 1807
Altarnun cb 28 Oct 1796 cb 28 Nov 1802 cb 28 Dec 1804 cb 15 Mar 1807
m 27 Jul 1811 Stoke Climsland Stoke Clims. Stoke Clims. Stoke Clims.
Callington db 20 Oct 1798
= William Hender Callington?
db 14 Feb 1850
Venterdon a57
* Note: All these children have taken their mother's maiden name of Rowe as indicated on
their parish baptism record AND/OR it many also well be that their father is of a ROWE
family origin as well as set forth previously.
More information about record*
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Day Month 25-Nov
Year 1793
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Groom Fn William Rowe
Groom Sn PHILLIPS
Groom Age
Groom Residence Altarnun
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Rank Pro
Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) M
Groom Father Name
Grm Fthr Rank Pro
Bride Fn Catherine
Bride Sn ROWE
Bride Age
Bride Residence Altarnun
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank Pro
Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) M
Bride Father Name
Brd Fthr Rank Pro
Banns/Licence(B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Henry
Witness Sn1 Chapman?
Witness Fn2 Thomas
Witness Sn2 Coumbe
Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber M Gabriel
/K Halley
While on father William ROWE/PHILIPS baptism record has been transcribed as either/or,
that is his name is to be considered either Rowe after his 'adoptive father' William
ROWE or after his Mother's maiden name of Philips, as he was born out of wed-lock. There
seems to be some recordings of his children's baptism that indicate that they are assuming
their mother's Maiden (nee) name of ROWE to avoid any such problems. This is such that
three of the four known siblings of Elizabeth Rowe, who not like Elizabath who was born in
Altarnun and there merely recorded as it being her surname of ROWE whether of bing that of
her father or Mother, who both have claim to the name Rowe.
More information about record*
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Day Month 02-Mar
Year 1794
Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun
Forename Elizabeth
Surname ROWE
Sex dau
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Catherine
Residence
Father Rank Pro
Notes
Trans Notes ref
1545200-970
Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record
3663359 in the Baptisms database
Day Month 23-Oct
Year 1796
Parish/Reg Dist Stoke Climsland
Forename Catherine
Surname ROWE
Sex
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Catherine
Residence
Father Rank Pro Labourer
Notes born: 9 Oct;
Nee ROWE
Trans Notes
Transcriber Di Gibbs
Both Catherine's and Ann's baptism reflect
that their surname is that of their mother's
maiden name of (nee) ROWE. George's baptism
record states straight out the 'ROW' is
his Mother's maiden name that he is taking
though records favior the name ROwE. And
Youngest brother Willaim ROW
just records that his surname is ROW.
Fitting this family together from Altarnun
in and through Callington to Stoke Climsland
seems to have located the long searched for
wife of William Hender, clockmaker, of
Callington.
More information about record*
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Day Month 28-Nov
Year 1802
Parish/Reg Dist Stoke Climsland
Forename Ann
Surname ROWE
Sex
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Catherine
Residence
Father Rank Pro Labourer
Notes born: 7 Nov;
Nee ROWE
Trans Notes
Transcriber Di Gibbs
More information about record
3184424 in the Baptisms database
Day Month 23-Dec
Year 1804
Parish/Reg Dist Stoke Climsland
Forename George
Surname ROW
Sex
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Catharine
Residence
Father Rank Pro Labourer
Notes DoB: 6 Dec.
Mother's maiden
name ROW.
Trans Notes
Transcriber Di Gibbs
More information about record*
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Day Month 15-Mar
Year 1807
Parish/Reg Dist Stoke Climsland
Forename William
Surname ROW
Sex
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Catherine
Residence
Father Rank Pro Labourer
Notes DoB: Feb 7?
Trans Notes
Transcriber Di Gibbs
Within the last four years strides have been made in the William Hender and Elizbeth Rowe family. New children have been found. Baptismal dates and even a marriage date and locations have been found. The marriage from the Callington Heritage Center parish register of information shared is depicted below:
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| Parish | Event | Firstname | Surname | Date | Year | Age | Notes |
| Callington | Marriage | William | HENDER | 27-Jul | 1811 | | sojourner |
| Callington | Marriage | Elizabeth | ROW | 27-Jul | 1811 | | of Callington |
* Callington Heritage Centre [William Hender sojourner from Altarnun Parish.]
Then there was the record of her and her husband's burials in Venterdon, within the Stoke Climsland arena. William's burial dates matched well with his death certificate dates and confirmed that this indeed were the burials of William and his wife Elizabeth Hender nee Rowe. William died 5 August 1848 and was buried 8 August 1848 there at Venterdon. He was age 60, which check with his baptism date in Altarnun. There was not reason not to accept the information about his wife Elizabeth, that she was buried there on 14 February 1850 at Venterdon with her husband. She being age 57. And that age disqualified a number of the Elizabeth Rowe possibilities. And there was but one near 'mis' left. An Elizabeth Rowe also baptized in Altarnun to a Willian and Catherine Rowe.
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| Parish | Event | Firstname | Surname | Date | Year | Age | Notes |
| Stokeclimsland | Burial | William | HENDER | 08-Aug | 1848 | 60 | Venterdon |
| Stokeclimsland | Burial | Elizabeth | HENDER | 14-Feb | 1850 | 57 | Venterdon |
So with all the relative 'skills' of some 50 years of genealogy research ability come by over that long duration of life, I determined to, if I could disprove this one last standing 'duck' in my hunt. And what I have found I have set out above. And what I have now found does seem to even be the last staning likelihood of exactly what is the truth of the matter. Hidden under a 'dual identity' like all good mysteries out to be, I believe I have found Elizabeth Rowes' family and parentage. Her father being William ROWE or PHILIPS for the reasons set out above. And her mother also being a ROWE, even Catherine ROWE, who's children have been said in their baptism records to have taken their mother's maiden (nee) name as their own surname, thus avoiding the controversy of their father's identity as also being William ROWE (adopted son) alias William PHILIPS a natural born son of his mother who married another William ROWE as her husband.
I am 67 and I've been working the genealogy records since age 17 in attending the Salt Lake genealogy library there at that time but at a different location than where it stands today. And I've been search for Elizabeth Rowe for just about that long also, and now I do believe that I have found her and her family. And I realize why it has been so difficult to find. Often in plain sight but hidden by the facts of the matter that would eliminated it as being possible. That is until now when it was the 'last straw' so to speak and a detailed reveiw of all the extenuating matters of the thing had led to the believed conclusion that here it is as having been obscured by further totally unlikely additional facts in and of themselves, which when taken together as a whole but come together in the only way left that it can be put together to be the truth of the thing.
rev. 15 August 2016
More information about record* ####### in the Marriages database Day Month 09-Jan Year 1722 Parish/Reg Dist Egloshayle Groom Fn Richard Groom Sn ROW Groom Age Groom Residence Groom Condition Groom Rank Profession Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) Groom Father Name Groom Father Rank Profession Bride Fn Grace Bride Sn REYNOLD Bride Age Bride Residence Bride Condition Bride Rank Profession Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) Bride Father Name Bride Father Rank Profession Banns / Licence (B/L) B Witness Fn1 Witness Sn1 Witness Fn2 Witness Sn2 Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber Sue Mutton
More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 28-May Year 1723 Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun Forename Elizabeth Surname ROWE Sex dau Father Forename Robert Mother Forename Grace Residence Father Rank Profession Notes Transcriber Notes BTs Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 27-May Year 1725 Parish Or Reg District Altarnun Forename John Surname ROE Sex son Father Forename Robert Mother Forename Grace Residence Father Rank Profession Notes Transcriber Notes ref 1545200-840 Transcriber Mike Gabriel
More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 24-Dec Year 1727 Parish/Reg Dist Altarnun Forename William Surname ROWE Sex son Father Forename Robert Mother Forename Grace Residence Father Rank Profession Notes Transcriber Notes BTs Transcriber Mike Gabriel
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