There Are More TOMS in the House
[Ancestors of James Toms, Husband of Ellen Hender]


   There are two TOMS families which marry into the family of Thomas Rowe Hender and Marianna Trout. One Selina Toms marries William Hender, son of Thomas and Marianna and that information is to be found on the TOMS 1 page. Here on the TOMS 2 page will be presented the TOMS family of James TOMS who married Ellen Hender, daughter of Thomas Rowe Hender and Marianna Trout. Interestingly both TOMS families run back to a Francis TOMS in just three generations, but NOT the same Francis TOMS. Here we will begin with that third generation back of the Francis TOMS family of East Looe.


                          Francis TOMS    =    Mary STIVEY
                          Fisherman       |     
                          b abt 1785/6    |    b abt 1790/1
                          b 14 Dec 1785   |    m 7 Oct 1810
                          Polperro        |    St Martin Looe
                          d 2 Nov 1855    |
                          Looe            |
                                          |
        __________________________________|____________________
       |                     |                  |              |
   John TOMS       James [Roberts] TOMS    Thomas TOMS      Jane TOMS
                   Mariner                 Fisherman
   cb 5 Sep 1813   b abt 1820/21**         b abt 1820/21*   b abt 1826/27
   St Martin Looe  b 28 Apr 1821
                   cb 27 May 1821
                   Polperro Wesleyan

   ** Both Francis TOMS and Mary families can be found claiming 'James Roberts TOMS as their
      "James TOMS". What is interesting is the Talland family shows no census evidence that
      the family had a 'James Toms'. And whether this Francis and Mary family's 'James Toms'
      is 'James Roberts TOMS' or not, one thing is for sure from the census and other
      evidence and that is there was for sure a James Toms in this family that would marry
      Susanna Pengelly and have a son also named James Toms who would marry Ellen Hender and
      have a family of many TOMS children. And that is supported by the census records,
      marriage records, and Christian baptism records.
   * The 1841 Census is known for 'rounding ages' so the fact that both James and Thomas are
     shown as being 20 on the 1841 Census does not indicate that they are twins.  In fact the
     1851 Census will show this Thomas Toms as age 32 and James as age 29 which ought to
     clarifiy it. 
   Other Sources - 1841 Census, Cornwall, Borough of Looe East Book 12 Folio 34 page 32
                   Parish marriage record of James TOMS and Susanna PENGELLY
                   @http://www.tribalpages/family-tree/cooksley
                   Toms, Francis, born dec 14 1785 in Polperro, Looe, Cornwall England
                   died nov 2 1855 in Looe

Now from the 1851 census, the following family groups can be put together: Francis TOMS = Mary Fisherman | b abt 1785 | b abt 1787 Polperro Corn. | East Looe Corn. | ________________|___________ | | Thomas TOMS Mary TOMS Fisherman b abt 1819 (1851-32) b abt 1826 (1851-25) East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. This is the same family as above but without John and James, which follow with their own households. John TOMS = Jemima Fisherman | b abt 1813 | b abt 1817 East Looe Corn. | East Looe Corn. ________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | | | James TOMS Mary A. TOMS John TOMS Joseph TOMS Elizabeth TOMS Fisherman Scholar Scholar Scholar b 1841 b abt 1843 b abt 1845 b abt 1848 b abt 1850 East Looe Corn East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. James TOMS = Susanna Harbour Pilot | b abt 1822 | b abt 1822 East Looe Corn. | East Looe Corn. _______________|_________________ | | | Richard TOMS James TOMS Susanna TOMS Scholar Scholar b abt 1843 b abt 1848 b abt 1850 East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. Now this accounts for those of the family of 1841 in that John TOMS is married with a family of his own and still calculated to being born about 1813. John has five children. James TOMS has also married and is with his family of three children, one of whom is James TOMS who will marry Ellen Hender. As for Jane TOMS of the 1841 family, she matches with Mary TOMS of the 1851 family with the qestion to be answered it the girls full name Mary Jane? We'll now add to the census skeleton pedigrees what can be derived from other records beginning with parish church records: Francis TOMS = Mary Fisherman | b abt 1785 | b abt 1787 Polperro Corn. | East Looe Corn. d before 1861 | (W,age 73 1861) | ________________|___________ | | Thomas TOMS Mary TOMS Fisherman Charwoman, Unmarried b abt 1819 (1851-32, 1861-41) b abt 1826 (1851-25, 1861-34) East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. Children of James TOMS and Susanna PENGELLY are at grandma's James TOMS, Grnson age 14 Scholar and Mary B TOMS, Grndau, age 9, Scholar, both of East Looe Corn. during 1861 Census. This is the same family as above but without John and James, which follow with their own households. John TOMS = Jemima VINCENT Fisherman | b abt 1813 | b abt 1817 East Looe Corn. | East Looe Corn. St Martin Looe | | ______?____________________________________|________________________________________ | | | | | | John TOMS James TOMS Mary Anne TOMS John TOMS Joseph TOMS Elizabeth Anne TOMS Fisherman Scholar Scholar Scholar b abt Oct 1839 b 1841 b abt 1843 b abt 1845 b abt 1848 b abt 1850 East Looe East Looe Corn East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. d Apr 1840 8m cb 25 Apr 1841 cb 9 Oct 1842 cb 10 Aug 1845 cb 25 Jun 1846/8 cb 28 May 1851 db 1 May 1840 St Martin Looe St Martin Looe St Martin Looe Looe Looe St Martin Looe

James TOMS = Susanna PENGELLY (dau of Richard & Elizabeth) Harbour Pilot | b abt 1822 | b abt 1822 East Looe Corn. | East Looe Corn. *** | cb 10 Apr 1822 m 13 Mar 1843 | St Martin Looe St Martin Looe | db 9 Nov 1881 age 59 | St Martin Looe | _______________|_________________ | | | Richard TOMS James TOMS Susanna TOMS Scholar Scholar b abt 1843 b abt 1848 b abt 1850 East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. East Looe Corn. cb 17 Jun 1849 cb 11 Nov 1849 Looe Cornwall Looe Cornwall - Parish Christian baptism record for John TOMS, 5 Sep 1813 at St Martin by Looe, parents Francis and Mary and on John TOMS and Jemina Vincent marriage entry it names John's father as Francis and Jemina's as Joseph. ***- This James TOMS IS the son of Francis TOMS born about 1885, the James TOMS of East Looe. Whether he is the same as James Robert TOMS who is recorded as being born 28 Apr 1821 and Chrisitan Baptism 27 May 1821 at Polperro Wesleyan, is of question. Certainly that birth date and given that a St Martin Looe parish baptism is not found for him leaves the possiblity open. At least it is as possible if not more so than that James Robert TOMS was the son of the 'other' Francis and Mary TOMS of Talland, for there is found no census record in support that that family ever has a son 'James ToMS' or 'James Robert TOMS'. - The wife of this James TOMS is Susanna PENGELLY the daughter of Richard and Elizabeth PENGELLY as both her Christian baptism and parish marriage record does so state her perentage to be of such.

James TOMS and Susanna PENGELLY Family & Sources

James TOMS = Susanna[h]/Susan PENGELLY (dau Richard & Elizabeth) Harbour Pilot | b abt 1821/22 | b abt 1821/22 East Looe Corn. | East Looe Corn. *** | cb 10 Apr 1822 m 13 Mar 1843 | St Martin Looe St Martin Looe | db 9 Nov 1881 age 59 | St Martin Looe | ____________________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | | | | Richard TOMS James TOMS Susanna[h] TOMS Mary Bragg TOMS Edward Pengelly TOMS | Fisherman Scholar Scholar | b abt 1843 b abt 1848 b abt 1849/50 b abt 1852 b abt 1855 | East Looe Corn East Looe Corn East Looe Corn East Looe Corn East Looe Corn | cb 17 Jun 1849 cb 11 Nov 1849 (Afflicted Fits) cb 16 Jun 1852 cb 19 Dec 1855 | Looe Cornwall Looe Cornwall cb 11 NOv 1849 Looe Cornwall Looe Cornwall | Looe Cornwall | |_________________________________________ | | William Thomas Pengelly TOMS Charles/Charlie TOMS Scholar Scholar b abt 1860 b abt 1863 East Looe Corn East Looe Corn cb 6 Aug 1862 cb 6 Aug 1862 Looe Cornwall Looe Cornwall Sources: Census Record and Parish Chruch Records of marriage(s) and baptisms.


Family of James TOMS and Ellen HENDER



  Ellen Hender is consistently recorded in the records as just Ellen Hender. But at some point, when listed as the Mother of Laura Toms, she is listed as Ellen Louisa Toms. And it appears from the baptism records the daughter Ellen was named after her mother as Ellen Louise/Louisa.

Birth Entry Record for Ellen Hender

Marriage Entry Record for James Toms and Ellen Hender



                                        James TOMS          =    Ellen [Louisa] HENDER**
                                        Fisherman           |
                                        b abt 1848          |    b 8 Aug 1847
                                         East Looe Corn     |     East Looe Corn
          Elizabeth Mary Toms           cb 17 Jun 1849      |
          b 28 Sep 1868                  Looe Cornwall      |    d 16 Nov 1904 a57
           Looe, Cornwall               m 27 Jun 1868       |    db 20 Nov 1904
          cb 10 Dec 1868                 E Stonehouse Devon |    St Martin Looe
           Liskeard Wes/Meth            d 14 Feb 1923 a75   |
          db 29 Nov 1870 a2             db 18 Feb 1923      |
           St Martin Looe                St Martin Looe     |
                 |                                          |
  _______________|__________________________________________|______________________________________ 
 |            |                 |               |             |                |                   |
 | Regenall/Reginald TOMS  James TOMS     Ellen L. TOMS   Edwin TOMS     Laura/Lora^ TOMS  Thomas Henry Toms
 |  Scholar                 Scholar        Scholar         Scholar                          Scholar
 | b abt 1870             *b 29 Nov 1871  b 25 Mar 1876   b abt 1878     b abt 1880        b 13 Aug 1882
 |  East Looe Corn.         E. Looe Corn   E. Looe Corn    E. Looe Corn   E. Looe Corn.     E. Looe Corn
 | cb 6 Feb 1870          *c 11 Sep 1871  cb 27 Apr 1876  cb 18 Nov 1878 cb 13 Sep 1880    cb 27 Sep 1882
 |  Looe Corn               Looe Wes Meth  Looe Wes Meth   Looe Corn      Looe Corn         Looe Wes Meth
 |
 |
 |
 |________________________________________________
     |              |               |             |
Ernest TOMS    George TOMS    Florence Toms  Minnie TOMS
Scholar        Scholar
b 10 Jun 1884  b 22 Oct 1885  b 21 Nov 1888  b 8 Jan 1890
 E Looe Corn    E Looe Corn    E Looe Corn    E Looe Corn
c 21 Aug 1884  c 30 Dec 1885  c 22 Nov 1888  c30 Jan 1890
 Looe Wes Meth  Looe Wes Meth  Looe Wes Meth  Looe W. M.

^ Since Lora was wrongly transcribe as Sara some have
  erroneously added a Sara Toms to this family.
* Obvious the error, transpose or whatever, concerning
  the relationship of birth and christening.
  It must be possibly considered that either the
  recorder of transcriber entered it incorrectly.
Sources: 1871 Census Cornwall
         1881 Census Cornwall
         1891 Census Cornwall-Laura TOMS at grandma Mary
               (Maryaina Trout Hender) Wynhall household
         Parish baptism records - st Martins Looe; East 
                                Stonehouse, Devon; Looe
         Gen. Reg. Birth Certificate
         Gen. Reg. Marriage Certificate
         Parish burial record
      ** Ellen [Louisa] Hender is the daughter of
         Thomas Rowe Hender and Marianna Trout.

From the Church Graveyard of St Martins by Looe Bay this grave stone has been found posted on one of the parish church's sites of St Martins. This is the sister of Philip Trout Hender who married James Toms whose family is listed here above.

More information about record*
####### in the Burials database

      Day Month  29-Nov 
           Year  1870 
Parish/Reg Dist  St Martin
                 by Looe
       Forename  Elizabeth
                 Mary 
        Surname  TOMS 
            Age  2 
      Residence  East Looe 
          Notes  
    Trans Notes  
    Transcriber  Sue Dent

More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 17-Jun Year 1849 Parish/Reg Dist Looe Forename James Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Susanna Residence East Looe Father Rank Pro Seaman Notes Born 25th May 1847 Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 06-Feb Year 1870 Parish/Reg Dist Looe Forename Reginald Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence East Looe Father Rank Pro Fisherman Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 18-Nov Year 1878 Parish/Reg Dist Looe Forename Edwin Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence East Looe Father Rank Pro Fisherman Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record* ####### in the Baptisms database Day Month 13-Sep Year 1880 Parish/Reg Dist Looe Forename Laura Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Louisa Residence East Looe Father Rank Pro Fisherman Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent


More information about record*
###### in the Baptisms Nc database

Baptism Circuit Liskeard,
Wesleyan-Methodist Circuit 

       Forename  Elizabeth
                 Mary
        Surname  TOMS 
            Sex  
Father Forename  James 
Mother Forename  Ellen 
 Residence East  Looe 
Parish/Reg Dist  
Father Rank Pro
      Day Month  10-Dec 
           Year  1868 
            Age  Sep 28 1868 
 Where Baptised  
 Register Notes  
    Trans Notes  
    Transcriber  Sue Dent

More information about record ##### in Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit Looe, Wesleyan Methodist Forename James Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence East Looe Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 11-Sep Year 1871 Age 29 Nov 1871 Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record ##### in Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit Looe, Wesleyan Methodist Forename Ellen Louise Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence Looe Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 27-Apr Year 1876 Age 25 Mar 1876 Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record ##### in Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit Looe, Wesleyan Methodist Forename Thomas Henry Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence Looe Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 27-Sep Year 1882 Age 13 Aug 1882 Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent


More information about record
##### in Baptisms Nc database

Baptism Circuit Looe,
 Wesleyan Methodist 

       Forename  Ernest 
        Surname  TOMS 
            Sex  
Father Forename  James 
Mother Forename  Ellen 
      Residence  Looe 
Parish/Reg Dist
Father Rank Pro
      Day Month  21-Aug 
           Year  1884 
            Age  10 Jun 1884
 Where Baptised  
 Register Notes  
    Trans Notes  
    Transcriber  Sue Dent

More information about record ##### in Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit Looe, Wesleyan Methodist Forename George Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence East Looe Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 30-Dec Year 1885 Age 22 Oct 1885 Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record ##### in Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit Looe, Wesleyan Methodist Forename Florence Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence Looe Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 22-Nov Year 1888 Age 21 Nov 1888 Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent
More information about record* ##### in the Baptisms Nc database Baptism Circuit Looe, Wesleyan Methodist Forename Minnie Surname TOMS Sex Father Forename James Mother Forename Ellen Residence Looe Parish/Reg Dist Father Rank Pro Day Month 30-Jan Year 1890 Age 8 Jan 1890 Where Baptised Register Notes Trans Notes Transcriber Sue Dent

rev. 24 August 2016