The Case: | ||
Generation 1 - The Third Generation | ||
Nicholas' three sons are Edward, Nicholas and Cornelius and they are noted as buried at St Keyne. The spinster daughter Elizabeth is also, as is the sister in law Abigail, wife of Cornelius Moon. The other three daughters that married, Mary Ann Snell, Jane Raby and my ancestor Susanna Trout are not. Like Susanna Trout they are likely buried with their spouse. It is father Nicholas' will and eldest son and Susanna Trout's brother Edward Moon's will that establishes this Moon family of the rank of 'Gentlemen' and being of 'Treheer' in Liskeard, though that part of Liskeard that is actually nearer to St. Keyne than the parish Church of Liskeard city of proper. And it is also son/brother Edward's will which does name much of the whole of the family, including his sister 'Susan Trout'. Her daughter 'Mary' who is the wife of 'Thomas Hender' therein also named. Well Edward wrote his will in January of 1848 and his younger brother Nicholas wrote his will in May of 1848, also so stating himself to be a Gentleman of Treheer, Liskeard. And each the other was still alive at the writing of their wills. So even though Nicholas died in '49 before his brother Edward, who also died in '49, it should be clear to see why Nicholas, though dead when the will was read, would still be written into his brother's, Edward's, will. I would expect no less and so it be. Now Edward in his will of 20 January of '48, does name his sister Susan Trout when he bequeths items to nieces Susan and Jane Trout, but therein he calls his sister Susan 'late'. And I don't think he means for dinner. And so it also that Nicholas in 4 May of '48 did not even so name her. But Nicholas so named as his nieces Susan Trout, Jane Trout and Mary wife of Mr. Hender, and stated them but as the daughters of Philip Trout. In the mouth of two such witnesses that would mead that sister Sasanna/Susan Moon Trout would have died before the date in January of '48 and so she was really late. The That would seem to yield a death date of Susanna(Susan) Moon Trout before 20 January 1848. And so it is, Susan Trout was buried 21 May 1839 as recorded in the parish record of St Martin by Looe at age of 42. And yes, so it is she was Christian baptism 9 July 1797 recorded in Liskeard, as Susanna Moon, daughter of Nicholas and Mary Ann. It is all so inter related, it is just too hard to make this 'stuff' up 'if' you are going by the original sourced data. Spinster Elizabeth's will does not mention everyone, just her three brothers, late father and sister Mary Ann Snell. Susanna Trout being dead in 1839 was not written in 1841, nor her children or her husband, in-law 'Hender'. Youngest brother and son Cornelius Moon may have out lived them all, dying in 1882. The Census records do declare him as being of Great Treheer. Just of late found and identified is Joseph Moon of this family, a child born/baptism 1803 who died 1804 and never appeared in any family will of document other than his baptism and his burial, which was once considered to have been that of another Joseph Moon. |
Three sons, a spinster daughter and a daughter in law buried at St Kenye. Son Cornelius Moon, of Great Treheer (1806-1882) More information about record **635767 in the Burials database Day Month 28-Jun Year 1882 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Cornelius Surname MOON Age 75 ^Residence Treheu, Liskeard Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard ^Written and/or transcribed poorly, Treheu is Treheer (Census records). Son’s Wife Abigail Little Moon (Wife of Cornelius above) (1825-1917) More information about record **2551156 in the Burials database Day Month 22-Feb Year 1917 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Abigail Surname MOON Age 93 Residence Tredallet Duloe ^Notes space next for husband. Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard ^ Unless Abigail remarried, 'for' is likely something like 'her'. Son Nicholas Moon Gentleman of Treheer, Liskeard (His will proves family) (1802-1849) More information about record **635651 in the Burials database Day Month 05-Apr Year 1849 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Nicholas Surname MOON Age 47 ^Residence Treleer Liskeard Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard ^ 'Treleer' is poorly written or transrcription of 'Treheer'. Son Edward Moon, Gentleman (His will proves it) (1795-1849) More information about record **635652 in the Burials database Day Month 14-Aug Year 1849 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Edward Surname MOON Age 53 ^Residence Treheer Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard ^ Treheer properly reproduced on OPC supplied record. Dau Elizabeth Moon, Spinster (Her ‘will’ to prove it) (1805-1841) More information about record **635628 in the Burials database Day Month 19-Jun Year 1841 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename .Elizh. Surname MOON Age 36 ^Residence Plymouth Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard ^ For whatever reason, spinter and independant Elizabeth, age 36, was living at Plymouth when she died, yet she was brought back to St Keyne for her burial with her family. Uncle Joseph Moon* (1803-1804) More information about record **1658674 in the Burials database Day Month 27-Mar Year 1804 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Joseph Surname MOON Age Residence Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole *This Joseph Moon was once thought to be son of Edward Moon as he appeared in Robert Moon's will, BUT NOT. He is now know as a previously unknown child of Nicholas Moon and his wife Mary Ann Fitze. He was named after his mother's father named Joseph Fitze. |
Dad Nicholas Moon Gentleman of Treheer*^, Liskeard (1763-1826) More information about record **635576 in the Burials database Day Month 24-Mar Year 1826 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Nicholas Surname MOON Age 62 ^Residence Trekere Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard ^Again, here 'Trekere' should be 'Treheer'. Error in recording or transcribing. One need only to lookup and read his will to know that he is of Treheer, Liskeard. Mom-Mary Ann Fitze^^ Moon (1769-1847) More information about record **635648 in the Burials database Day Month 18-Oct Year 1847 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Mary Ann Surname MOON Age 78 Residence Treleer Liskeard Notes Transcriber Notes Transcriber Jean Shephard^^ By the way, Nicholas' wife, Mary Ann Moon, She died and was buried as recorded in St Keyne at, well the age of 78. Let's see, does that add up? Well, Mary Ann Fitze was Christian/baptism baptism 9 November 1769 as the daughter of Joseph Fitze and Ann Bartlet. So does 1769 + 78 = 1847? Yep, that's right there. So that is her death and burial date of 1847, don't you see? *^ Concerning Nicholas being of Treheer and Gentleman, beyond his will that states it, there is the matter of a National Archives Note which also refers to what is Conelius Moon's will, father of Edward Moon and grandfather to this Nicholas Moon. BW/4/2/1,2 29 and 30 October 1812
Contents: Now of course the will date of 24 June 1766 would be the date it was written and signed and sealed by Cornelius Moon. Remember that herein it will be shown that Cornelius Moon, father of Edward Moon who is the father of this Nicholas Moon died and was buried at St Keyne in 1767. And some date after that burial would be the actual date when at which this will would have been proved by the Archdeaconry Court. |
Generation 2 - The Second Generation | ||
The children of this generation, are the aunts and uncle, besides the father Nicholas Moon to my reference point, Susanna Moon my 3rd great grandmother who married Philip Trout. They consist of four sons - uncles and 'dad'. Nicholas Moon named after his mother's father Nicholas Morshead/Moorshead, is already shown as the dad of the younger generation I'm related through. Then there is Cornelius Moon named after his father's father, grand father Cornelius Moon. And again ditto for the next son also Cornelius. And their fourth son whose is Robert Moon whose will disclosed information now developed. Once thought as the fifth is Joseph Moon who is son in law of the Moons of High Clicker who married these brother's sister Susanna Moon. Then there are four daughters of this Moon family. There is Susanna Moon, who did not die at age 14, but was married to Joseph Moon of the family of High Clicker. Another is Elizabeth Moon who married Robert Carswell. Then there is Jenny or Jane Moon, named after her mother, who did marry one Richard Stephens. And the fourth is Ann Moon who married Richard Hingston. In either case there are graves in St Keyne who could fit them in and thus not particularly important directly to this case. But as this is the long of it, I will place the questioned in blue as to their possible included burial. |
Nicholas Child Is Dad Not Uncle Uncle Cornelius Moon (the infant) (1767-1767) More information about record **1658570 in the Burials database Day Month 21-Apr Year 1767* Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Cornelius Surname MOON Age Residence Liskeard Notes inft: son of Mr Edwd Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole Uncle Cornelius Moon (Proved by his will, written 1832 died 1837) (1769-1837) More information about record **1658764 in the Burials database Day Month 05-Feb Year 1837 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Cornelius Surname MOON Age 67 Residence Trewen, Liskeard Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole Uncle Robert Moon (1772-1805) More information about record **1658679 in the Burials database Day Month 01-Sep Year 1805 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Robert Surname MOON Age Residence Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole |
Grandpa Edward Moon ^*Gentleman (1731-1792) More information about record **1658633 in the Burials database Day Month 14-Jun Year 1792 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Edward Surname MOON Age Residence Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole ^* Upon the marriage certificate it states that Edward's Rank Profession is a Gentleman. And it also records that he is of Liskeard and not of some other parish such as St Germans. Now some question has been, why the marriage was in Moral. Well now, according to my little story, Jenny Morshead's sister was Mary Pine who married Samuel Snell of Morval. That was in 1761. About a year and a half later when Edward Moon and Jenny Morshead were married, and they were married where Jenny's sister lived in Morval. And the point I guess, is that Gentleman Edward Moon came down to Morval from where he lived in Liskeard and NOT from where some suppose that other Edward Moon to have been from - St Germans. Grandma Jenny Morshead Moon (1737-1815) More information about record **1658700 in the Burials database Day Month 30-Jun Year 1815 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Jenny Surname MOON Age 79 Residence Trewen, Liskeard Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole |
Uncle Joseph Moon NOT of this generation but still a St Keyne Moon, see ID generation above ( -1804) More information about record **1658674 in the Burials database Day Month 27-Mar Year 1804 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Joseph Surname MOON Age Residence Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole Aunt Susanna Moon NOT as she married Joseph Moon of High Clicker (1765-1795) More information about record **1658598 in the Burials database Day Month 21-Apr Year 1779 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Susanna Surname MOON Age Residence Notes Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole (ID Pending) | ||
Generation 3 - The First Generation | ||
Of this last family generation the parish records are of that age and time that they are beginning to break up. And complete information is hard to come by. The family itself is not fully identified. But what is, is there buried at St Keyne. There are two children of Cornelius who are born there as state as such on their parish record entry as show. And of course there is Edward Moon show as Grandfather who is a son of the graveyard's other inhabitant, Cornelius. No Christopher, the known father of the St Germans' Edward pretender is not buried there as is Cornelius, who is the father of the Edward Moon, Gentleman of Liskeard, is buried there. The important point is the placing of Great Grandfather Cornelius Moon in the burial family group at St. Keyne. The Parish record seems but fragmented and broken up either from dated use or incomplete transcription, which does not go beyond this distant point. What seem important is that Cornelius is there to be found and Christopher, the father of the pretender Edward of St Germans is not. |
Great Aunt Susanna Moon (1733-1756) More information about record **1658521 in the Burials database Day Month 19-Feb Year 1756 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Susanna Surname MOON Age Residence Liskeard Notes dau of Cornelius & Joan Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans Transcriber Frances Kenshole Great Uncle Robert Moon (1745-1756) More information about record **764456 in the Burials database Day Month 11-Dec Year 1756 Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Robert Surname MOON Age Residence Notes son of Cornelius Moon & wife Joan Transcriber Notes Bishop's Trans Transcriber Jean Shephard Great Uncle Cornelius Moon (1740-1767) More information about record **764495 in the Burials database Day Month 21-Mar Year 1767* Parish/Reg District St Keyne Forename Cornelius Surname MOON Age ^Residence Leskeard Notes son of Edward Moon* Transcriber Notes Bishop's Trans Transcriber Jean Shephard ^ Of course this is an obvious recording and transcription of what is 'Liskeard' |
Great Grandpa Cornelius Moon
(1697-1767)
More information about record
**1658568 in the Burials database
Day Month 08-Mar
Year 1767*
Parish/Reg District St Keyne
Forename Cornelius
Surname MOON
Age
Residence Liskeard
Notes yeoman
Transcriber Notes Furze's Trans
Transcriber Frances Kenshole
Great Grandma Joan Bowden Moon
(1699-1799^)
^ There is a record which would make
Great Grandma to be 100, but of such
a nebulous fact without adding more
proof, I'll just list her as I found
her to be, Joan Bowden. More ought
to be sought before for sure deducing
her age as a 100.
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Where Is the Usurper Buried? | ||
So where and what is the real story with the St Germans' Edward Moon. Will to start with, in this time frame there is only one Edward Moon of St Germans. And yes, he is the Son of Christopher Moon and Joan. That OPC Cornwall supplied information is in the next column show. Now if there is only one such Edward Moon of St Germans of this time frame. Just how busy is he and where does he get about to? Well I can make that a short story by just saying, "He was born in St Germans, he was Christian baptized in St Germans, he was twice married once in St Germans to Susanna Hick, and one two years later to Ann Betty at Morval, and he was at age 80 (1819-1739) buried at St Germans with his father who was also buried there at St Germans. When one understands the societal social structure of England of the 1700s, one ought to know that souls just don't so easily move around and about from one local to another, un-establishing themselves out of one community and into another community. This is what America was all about, braking away from the English Class System. There is overwhelming evidence here that the only Edward Moon of St Germans of this period did but stay in St Germans. Baptism, two marriages and being buried in St Germans with his family there. He did not just suddenly between two other marriages run up to Liskeard, there to become estabished as a 'Rank Professional' 'Gentleman' of property to get married to Jenny Morshead. And he certainly did not foster that family of Treheer in Liskeard who all were living and being buried in that community at St Keyne. He certainly was not buried in two places, that one which calculates to be him 80 years after his birth and then baptism in 1739 to be buried in 1819 at St Germans away from all his supposed family of Liskeard at St Keyne. This type of 'splash and dash', 'quick and dirty' genealogy work just ought not to be. The computer is a tool to help you do the WORK. But WORK is still the four letter word that gets it done right. With the aid of the computer and access to the online OPC parish records, the Online Cornwall Census records, and the lookup capabilities of the internet information high in the sky super highway, I can get done in a matter of hours, days, and weeks what 40 years ago was taking me weeks, months and years to do. But, I still have to do it. And as some point one just has to get down and do the actual work of genealogy and not just expect some ancestry service supply it all for them. If they do they will get what they deserve. An inaccurate 'splash and dash' senseless pedigree that a real and true study through the sourced facts acts of the matter exposes if for what it is - nonsense. |
More information about record
**1200386 in the Baptisms database
Day Month 31-Oct
Year 1739
Parish/Reg District St Germans
Forename Edward
Surname MOON
Sex
Father Forename Christopher
Mother Forename Joan
Residence
Fthr Rank Pro
Notes
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Fred Hancock
More information about record
**535788 in the Marriages database
Day Month 27-May
Year 1762
Parish/Reg District St Germans
Groom Fn Edward
Groom Sn MOON
Groom Age
Groom Residence
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Prof
Groom Sign/Mark(S/M)
Groom Father Name
Groom Fthr Rank Prof
Bride Fn Susannah
Bride Sn HICKS
Bride Age
Bride Residence
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Prof
Bride Sign/Mark(S/M)
Bride Father Name
Bride Fthr Rank Prof
Banns/Licence (B/L)
Witness Fn1
Witness Sn1
Witness Fn2
Witness Sn2
Other Information
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber Fred Hancock
The real person and family history of
the Edward Moon of St Germans is this.
Edward Moon, whose baptism was recorded
the 31 October 1739, first got married
to Susannah Hicks in St Germains
27 May 1762. By the time that my
Edward Moon came down to Morval to
marry Jenny Morshead in December.
The Edward Moon of St Germans and
his wife Susannah Hicks Moon were
expecting their first child. That
child was born and given the name
of 'Susannah Hicks Moon', being
Christian baptized 2 July 1763
with Edward Moon of St German
the only parent there as his
wife Susannah Hicks had died at
the age of 25 and being buried
that same day as her only
daughter's baptism, 2 July
1763. Now Edward Moon of
St Germans had not thought
about running up to live
in Liskeard and getting
married to Jenny Morshead.
He had enough being served
to him on his plate of life
with his marriage to Susannah
Hicks, the birth of his first
child, the death of his wife,
the baptism of his first
child and the burial of his
first wife on that same day
of 2 July 1763.
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More information about record
**696456 in the Marriages database
Day Month 24-Dec
Year 1764
Parish/Reg District Morval
Groom Fn Edward
Groom Sn MOON
Groom Age
^Groom Residence St Germain
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Prof
Groom Sign/Mark(S/M)
Groom Father Name
Groom Fthr Rank Prof
Bride Fn Ann
Bride Sn BETTY
Bride Age
Bride Residence
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Prof
Bride Sign/Mark(S/M)
Bride Father Name
Bride Fthr Rank Prof
Banns/Licence(B/L) B
Witness Fn1
Witness Sn1
Witness Fn2
Witness Sn2
Other Information
Transcriber Notes BTs
Transcriber Sue Mutton
^ St Germans by other name.
More information about record **763569 in the Burials database Day Month 22-Jul Year 1819 Parish/Reg District St Germans Forename Edward Surname MOON Age 80 Residence Notes Transcriber Notes From trans Transcriber Fred HancockEdward recovered and married again, this time at Morval on 24 December 1764 to Ann Betty. They had additional children, Thomas 1765, Elizabeth 1768, Mary 1770, Ann 1773 and Edward 1776. Six children in all counting Susannah Hicks Moon by his first marriage. Now I shouldn't have to put together someone else's family history story. They should do it and not rely on shoddily done and wrong genealogy such as corrupted at least two sets of genealogical lines. |
~ THE END ~Well, what do you know? A surprise ending. You see, Edward Moon of St Germans is a real person too. And he too, and his family deserves the respect of a thorough investigation into his life and who he is, and not to just throw him into someone else's life and family. Edward Moon and his father Christopher and their families there in St Germans ought to be properly researched as people with real life stories to tell, and not just as someone convenient to use to fill out a pedigree sheet. And the two Edward Moons may well be distant cousins. What they are not is each other and they both need a little respect to take the time to find out who they really are apart from being used by a shoddily done genealogy to complete. |
revised 23 August 2014