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CHAPTER 15 How Christ is both the Father and the Son—He shall make intercession and bear the transgression of his people—They and all the holy prophets are his seed—He bringeth to pass the resurrection—Little children have eternal life. [About 148 B.C.] |
How Christ is both the Father of all things pertaining unto this Second Estate as well as the Son—He shall make intercession, being our advocate and mediator before the God the Eternal Father of Spirits, our Heavenly Father of all eternity—In so doing he will bear the transgressions of his people that they do stand clean before the Father and judged according to their works unto various kingdoms of glory—He bringeth to pass the resurrection unto immortality and eternal life—Little children have eternal life in and through his mercy and justice. [About 148 B.C.] |
~ Two Separate and Distinct Beings ~ |
1 AND now Abinadi said unto them: I would
that ye should understand that aGod himself shall
bcome down among the children of men, and shall
credeem his peoplea.
2 And because he adwelleth in bflesh he shall be called the cSon of God, and having subjected the flesh to the dwill of the eFather, being the Father and the Son— 3 The Father, abecause he was bconceived by the power of Goda; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son— 4 And they are aone Goda, yea, the very bEternal cFather of heaven and of earth.
of Heaven and of Earth
the Message the Lord Sent Me to Deliver! It is not the false Doctrine of the Trinity pounded out by ancient Bishops in a power struggle to see who were the 'leaders' of the fallen church of the apostasy. It is there to be found and understood. It is understandable and level by level it does reveal itself and come to the light of the minds of men by the power and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Rest assured that Elohim and Jehovah who is Jesus Christ are to separte corporally distinct beings. Yet in Jesus Christ, who is the ministering God of the Old Testament in the stead of the Father, our God of the temporal creation under the direction of the Father, our Savior and Redeeming Lord, King of the Milennial reign and final judge — In him is found the powere of the Godhead in one (Colossian 2:8-9), for only by, in and through him are we redeemed and no other way nor means has been given by the Father by which we may be saved but by, through and in him, Jesus Christ (Mosiah 3:17)! |
Jesus taught us to pray to Our Father Who Art in Heaven, for indeed that is where our and his Celestial Father dwells. Working in union as 'one', Elohim Governing in Heaven and Jehovah-Jesus Ministering temporally below, they together are united to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man: the Holy Ghost able to abide from God to the inner spirit of man. | |
1a God himself shall come down among the
children of men, and shall redeem his people 'God' here is speaking
of Jehovah, who is the same as Jesus Christ. Jehovah who arbitrated in the stead
of the Father in all things as though he were the Father and by the power of
divine investiture did under the direction of the Father perform the temporal
creation of heaven and earth, and was the 'Ministering God Jehovah' as the 'Father'
in the stead of the Father, for the Father. And this he did as the Spirit God Jehovah
of the Old Testament, Ministering as the Father to the Children of Israel. From the
perspective of those of the B.C. era before God Jehovah came down and took upon
himself, upon his spirit a tabernacle of flesh and bone, Jehovah/Jesus Christ was
the God of the Old Testament acting in the stead of the Father, even as though he
were the Father, giving all glory of such to the Father.
Elohim, Who is our FATHER Who are in Heaven, was the literal FATHER of Jesus Christ both as Jesus/Jehovah, who was His Firstborn son in the spirit, and he was His only Begotten Son in the Flesh, even Jehovah as Jesus. Now the B.C. children of Israel perceived Jehovah to actually be 'The FATHER' in the Old Testament. So from their perspective it was the Father-Jehovah who did come down to take upon him flesh and bone. And thus this 'Father figure Jehovah' thereby also became the Son. The 'Father' by divine investiture and the Son by the literal birth of Mary by Elohim the Supreme FATHER being his/Jehovah's literal temporal FATHER as well. But B.C. Israel would have seen him both as 'Father' and 'Son.' Not having the spirit of truth by 4th century, in 325 A.D. the fallen priesthood Bishops at Nicea began the problematic task of identifying the 'Father,' 'Son,' and 'Holy Ghost.' And that evolved into the 'Doctrine of the Holy Trinity.' Which due to fallen understanding became a muddle of merging Elohim into being the same being as both Jehovah the ministering God of the Old Testament and Jesus Christ the Son of the New Testament. And the Spirit of God, the Holy Ghost was also through into that mix of the three being just one being — NOT joined by being one in faith and purpose, but one in bodily being. Some of the Bishops of 325 A.D. still understood the three divided beings relationship to each other. As Bishop Eusepus of Ceasurea explained, they were not one as to corporal bodies! He explained that Elohim as the 'Supreme Father' directed Jehovah/Jesus to create the temporal heavens and earth under his direction. And Eusipus futher explained that relationship at the 325 Nicean council. But eventually the Alexandrian cult prevailed and the Doctrine of the Trinity three in one become established, though corrupted as it was.
3a The Father, because he was conceived
by the power of God Often a statement by a prophet is understood
clearly by that prophet who said it. Upon ocassion a prophet is the messenger
who relays the message from God and whether that prophet fully comprehends
what it is that he has said may not be the case. And then we who hear the
words of the prophet either spoken with his full understanding or not, are
left to make of them what we may. There are levels and depths of
understanding which each of us possess and from our own perspectives and with
the aid of the spirit of God, we are left to attempt our comprehension. Often
it is best to start by setting forth what is known for sure. |
1a
Isa. 54:5;
1 Tim. 3:16;
Mosiah 13:34 (33-34) b TG God, Manifestations of c TG Jesus Christ, Misson of 2a Mosiah 3:5; Mosiah 7:27; Alma 7:9-13 b TG Jesus Christ, Condescension of c John 19:7; TG Jesus Christ, Divine Sonship d TG God, Will of e Isa. 9:6; Isa. 64:8; John 10:30; John 14:10 (8-10); Mosiah 5:7; Alma 11:39 (38-29); Ether 3:14 3a D&C 93:4 b Luke 1:32 (31-33); Mosiah 3:8-9; Alma 7:10; 3 Ne. 1:14; TG Jesus Christ, Divine Sonship 4a Deut. 6:4; TG Godhead Col. 2:9 b Alma 11:39 c Mosiah 3:8; Hel. 14:12; 3 Ne. 9:15; Ether 4:7
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5 And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son
to the Father, being one Goda,
asuffereth temptation, and
yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and
bscourged, and cast out, and disowned by his
cpeople.
6 And after all this, after working many mighty miracles among the children of men, he shall be led, yea, even aas Isaiah said, as a sheep before the shearer is dumb, so he bopened not his mouth.
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5a thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God We ought not forget that Jesus Christ is a prototype of what we are to do and become. We are to follow him and do as he does in all things, for we are like him and when we see him we shall be like him also for we shall see him as he is. Thus we may become one, even one God even as he. Isaiah chapter 41 points out that 'we are gods' (Isaiah 41:21). Now here is wisdom, we are children in the Spirit of our Father in Heaven, He who is the Father of us all, the Father of our Spirit. And as such we are like the Fahter even in that we are the 'Father' in Spirit even as Christ was and is the Father in Spirit. That is our Spirit, which is of the Father is that part of us which is of the substance of the Father or our Father in us. And as that Father Spirit from the Father comes to subject and control that natural man or the flesh of this temporal mortality then we too, even as Jesus has, may become even as the Father is, the Spirit of the Father having overcome the 'Son' of the flesh. This sounds like double talk, but it is not. It is coming to understand just who we are, what our potential is and how we may rise to it. We like Jehovah are children of God. That Spirit from the Father is the 'Father' in us. If that which is the Father in us does prevail over that temporal natural man of sin, then we may become even as the Father is, as God is, as being children of God, gods in embrow, allows us to become. That our natural physical body is such as a 'Son' or 'Daugher' belonging to that Spirit, that Father or Mother Spirit within us which gives it life, it is as a child which we must learn to nurture, foster, or cultivate by the guiding hand of that Spirit which is in us from the Father which makes us as the Father. It is in this self actuating relationship of our Spirit Self as Father, to our Temporal Self as Son, that we must bring to bear in our achieving eternal life and becoming self reliant and self suficient and in become so self sustaining and existant, even as God is. It may seem stange to say that 'I am my own Father'. But in the development of God, such is the fact of the matter. We posses the power, the power is within us in that our Spirit is that of the Father, thus we have that power of the Father in us and our Spirit being stands as the Father, the nuturer of our being, the sum total of all that it is which includes the control and governing of the body, that natural being of the flesh as it were our Son. The Son, the flesh, being subjected to the Father, the Spirit, they then together being one God. And though Christ is the 'Father' in various senses of the word other than that He is not the Father of our Spirits, even so as Christ is Father and Son in that his Spirit hath over come the flesh, the Father over the Son, even so is ours to also so become, Father and Son, Mother and Daughter, with the Son of flesh of the body becoming subject to the Father as that Spirit which does come from Him. |
5a
Luke 4:2;
Heb. 4:15; TG Jesus Christ, Temptation of b John 19:1 c Matt. 21:42; Mark 8:31; Luke 17:25; Luke 23:38 6a Isa. 53:7 b Luke 23:9; John 19:9-10; Mosiah 14:7; TG Jesus Christ, Trials of
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7 Yea, even so he shall be led, acrucified, and
slain, the bflesh becoming subject even unto death,
the cwill of the Son being swallowed up in the will
of the Fathera.
8 And thus God breaketh the abands of death, having gained the bvictory over death; giving the Son power to make cintercession for the children of men— 9 Having ascended into heaven, having the bowels of mercy; being filled with compassion towards the children of men; standing betwixt them and justice; having broken the bands of death, taken upon ahimself their iniquity and their transgressions, having redeemed them, and bsatisfied the demands of justice.
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7a the will of the Son being swallowed up in the will of the Father As already set forth, there are a number of perspectives from which Jehovah is both the Father and the Son. And speaking from the perspective of this world alone, which Abinadi surely is, Christ, who is the same as Jehovah, is the Father, in that he is the creator and Father of Heaven and Earth. And while in the Garden of Gethsemane we do come to understand that Jesus Christ did submit his will unto 'Abba', his Father, who is the Father of Spirits and of us all in that respect, and from the respect of being the Only Begotten of the Father, Christ did also submit himself to his father in that respect. But the perspective from which Abinadi speaks from is not that of the Father and Son, the two distinct personages of the Godhead, Abinadi speaks of that internal battle within one's self. Christ as Jehovah the God of the Old Testament, the Creator and Father of Heaven and Earth and the intent, purpose and design of Christ from that perspective of being that Father of all that was created of this second estate, had as his intent, purpose and design to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man (D&C 130:). And now as the Son in mortality, this purpose and intent and 'will of that Father of Creation' was now put to the test of being fulfilled by the Son in the flesh. This is the internal strugle of us all. Does that eternal spirit within us and its intents and purposes and will, have the power to overcome and submit the 'son of the flesh', our temporal body unto the will of the Spirit? Christ's will as and of the Father of Creation was to bring to pass the eternal life and immortality of man. And in the Garden as the Son of the flesh, the time did come, the Holy Spirit withdrew as step from him, being that angel which Luke records was observed beside him. And Christ in and of himself had to determine, was the greater will of the Spirit Father of Creator able to swallow up the weakness of the flesh which did plead if there was any other way that the cup be removed. And as the Spirit of Jehovah as the Christ did over come he not only submitted his temporal being unto the will of the Spirit of the Father of Creation within himself, but he also prayed unto that separate being, the Father of his Spirit and also the Father of his flesh, that 'Thy will be done.' He had conquered the inner battle of the Father over the Son and he proceeded on in the outward experience of suffering for the sins of all as he proceeded to bleed from every pore so great was the suffering he yeilded to and submitted him self unto according to the control of the Spirit over the flesh. The will of the Son of the flesh being swallowed up in the will of the Father of Heaven and Earth who he was, as well as the Father of Spirit who was his Father, that separate being of Celestial Glory, the Heavenly Father of us all. |
7a
TG
Jesus Christ, Crucifixion of b Isa. 53:10 c Luke 22:42; John 6:38; 3 Ne. 11:11 8 a Alma 5:7 b Hosea 13:14; 1 Cor. 15:57 (55-57) Mosiah 16:7 c 2 Ne. 2:9; Mosiah 14:12; Moro. 7:28 (27-28) 9 a Mosiah 14:5-12; TG Self-sacrifice b TG Jesus Christ, Mission of
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10 And now I say unto you, who shall declare his
ageneration? Behold, I say unto you, that when his soul has
been made an offering for bsin he shall see his
cseed. And now what say ye? And who shall be his seed?
11 Behold I say unto you, that whosoever has heard the words of the aprophets, yea, all the holy prophets who have prophesied concerning the coming of the Lord—I say unto you, that all those who have hearkened unto their words, and believed that the Lord would redeem his people, and have looked forward to that day for a remission of their sins, I say unto you, that these are his seeda, or they are heirs of the bkingdom of God. 12 For these are they whose sins ahe has borne; these are they for whom he has died, to redeem them from their transgressions. And now, are they not his seed?
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11a all those who have hearkened unto their words, and believed that the Lord would redeem his people, and have looked forward to that day for a remission of their sins, I say unto you, that these are his seed These are all those who are the true disciples and followers of Christ. These are they who have taken upon themselves the name of Christ. These are they who have become the sons and daughters of Christ. And this is what Christ meant when he spoke of who would be his family. That they would not be of a earthly phsyical nature of the families of mortality, but that they would be they who would follow him and do his will according to the mind of God. These are they who are contrite in heart and spirit unto the Lord in all things whatsoever. |
10a
Isa. 53:8 b Lev. 6:25-26 c Isa. 53:10; Mosiah 5:7; Mosiah 27:25; Moro. 7:19; TG God the Father—Jehovah 11a Luke 10:16; Isa. 84:36-38 b TG Kingdom of God in Heaven; TG Kingdom of God on Earth 12a Mosiah 14:12; Alma 7:13; Alma 11:40-41
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The Inquiry and the AnswerIn Mosiah 12:20-24, in an attempt to 'catch Abinadi out' the wicked priests of King Noah had made a debatable difficult question from the words of Isaiah of the plates of brass, which they supposed that Abinadi would stumble over and they could and would confound him upon the points of his answer. It concerned the 'watchmen' of Israel, the beautiful feet upon the mountain, and the bringing and publishing of good tidings found in Isaiah 52:7-10. And I would have to suppose that being the 'Priests of the Temple' and the judges of Israel, they were ready to defend their own positional claim upon the scriptural implications.
ISAIAH 52
7 ¶ How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that
publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith
unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
Abinadi did not immediately answer that inquiry, but continued with his message and in fact when they were angered by Abinadi to take him and kill him, Abinadi in Mosiah 13:1-4 did forbid them from even touching him until he had finish delivering his message and also answering what they had requested him to tell them. And then finally in Mosiah 15, after laying the foundation of Jesus Christ, Abinadi gets back to filling in what Isaiah 52:7-10 was referencing in relationship to Jesus Christ here in Mosiah 15:13-19 and so forth. And Abinadi had answered in such a way in the truth that left the Temple Priests completely out of even being of any consideration in the scripture, for indeed the priests would oppose Christ when he came and were not for him at that great day and time that the scripture of Isaiah spoke of. |
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13 Yea, and are not the aprophets, every one that
has opened his mouth to prophesy, that has not fallen into transgression, I
mean all the holy prophets ever since the world
begana? I say unto you that
they are his seed.
14 And these are athey who have published peace, who have brought good btidings of good, who have cpublished salvation; and said unto Zion: Thy God reigneth! 15 And O how beautiful upon the mountains were their feet!
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13a all the holy prophets ever since the world began Note: this does not leave out any of those who speak by the spirit of prophecy from the beginning to the end, and for sure includes those of the Latter-day work as well. And when any are moved upon to speak by the spirit of prophecy, are they not deliverers of the Word of God and acting in the capacity of 'prophets' of revelation as well. Thus missionaries, teachers, speakers, and testifiers of Christ who speak by the Holy Spirit are also included as well. But who is not are they who do not speak the Word and Truth of God, which left the wicked priests of Noah out, as well as those who did crucify Christ as well. |
13a
Zech. 7:12;
Matt. 11:13;
1 Ne. 3:20; 14a Mosiah 12:21-24; Mosiah 27:37 b Isa. 52:7 c TG Missionary Work
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16 And again, how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of
those that are still publishing peace!
17 And again, how beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of those who shall hereafter publish peace, yea, from this time henceforth and forever! 18 And behold, I say unto you, this is not all. For O how beautiful upon the mountains are the afeet of him that bringeth good tidings, that is the founder of bpeace, yea, even the Lord, who has redeemed his peoplea; yea, him who has granted salvation unto his people; 19 For were it not for the redemption which he hath made for his people, which was prepared from the afoundation of the world, I say unto you, were it not for this, all mankind must have bperished.
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18a this is not all. For O how beautiful
upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that is
the founder of peace, yea, even the Lord, who has redeemed his
people In answer to the question of the priests of Noah (Mosiah
12:20-24) concerning Isaiah 52:7-10, Abinadi has now stated here in chapter
15 the answer to that question that they are those who are Christ's
disciples, they are they who are the prophets of God, and here it further
stipulates that they are the feet of Christ himself. All those who publish
salvation unto mankind, how beautiful are their feet upon the mountains of
the Lord. This would include all who work to bring to pass salvation, the
eternal life and immortality of man, from those who do temple ordinances, to
missionaries who serve in the mission field, to ward members who labor in the
kingdom in their positions to further the kingdom of God and God's purposes.
They are certainly the prophets, and most certainly of all, they are the feet
of Christ. They all are and can be and do stand with their feet upon the
mountain of the Lord with him and in this they too act in accord with him as
'saviors' of men, He being the Savior and King, but they being servants unto
him in the fulfilling of the building of the Kingdom of God on Earth. O how
beautiful are all their feet and may we be so found their beside them.
I once told a participating Ricks College student group in the Idaho Falls Temple who had been performing baptisms for the dead, that they were that day among those who it did speak when it spoke of how beautiful were they feet upon the mountain of the Lord that day in his Holy House to have done as they had done. |
18a
Nahum 1:15;
3 Ne. 20:40;
D&C 128:19 b Micah 5:5 (4-7); John 16:33; TG Peace of God 19a Mosiah 4:6 b 2 Ne. 9:7 (6-13)
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20 But behold, the bands of death shall be broken, and the Son
reigneth, and hath power over the dead; therefore, he bringeth to
pass the resurrection of the dead.
21 And there cometh a resurrection, even a afirst resurrection; yea, even a resurrection of those that have been, and who are, and who shall be, even until the resurrection of Christ—for so shall he be called.
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21a
Jacob 4:11;
Alma 40:16-21; TG Firstfruits
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22 And now, the resurrection of all the prophets, and all those
that have believed in their words, or all those that have kept
the commandments of God, shall come forth in the first
resurrection; therefore, they are the first resurrection.
23 They are raised to adwell with God who has redeemed them; thus they have eternal life through Christ, who has bbroken the bands of death. 24 And these are those who have part in the first resurrection; and these are they that have died before Christ came, in their ignorance, not having asalvation declared unto them. And thus the Lord bringeth about the restoration of these; and they have a part in the first resurrection, or have eternal life, being redeemed by the Lord.
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23a
Ps. 15:1-5;
Ps. 24:3-4;
1 Ne. 15:33-36; D&C 76:62 (50-70) b TG Death, Power over 24a 2 Ne. 9:26 (25-26); D&C 137:7
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25 And little achildren also have eternal life.
26 But behold, and afear, and tremble before God, for ye ought to tremble; for the Lord redeemeth none such that brebel against him and cdie in their sins; yea, even all those that have perished in their sins ever since the world began, that have wilfully rebelled against God, that have known the commandments of God, and would not keep them; dthese are they that have eno part in the first fresurrection. 27 Therefore ought ye not to tremble? For salvation cometh to none such; for the Lord hath redeemed none such; yea, neither can the Lord redeem such; for he cannot deny himself; for he cannot deny ajustice when it has its claim.
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25a
D&C 29:46;
D&C 137:10; TG Salvation of Little Children; 26a Deut. 5:29; Jacob 6:9; Jacob 7:19 b Josh. 22:16; Job 24:13; Ps. 5:10; 1 Ne. 2:23 (21-24) c Ezek. 18:26; 1 Ne. 15:33 (32-33); Moro. 10:26 d Alma 40:19 e D&C 76:85 f TG Telestial Glory 27a Alma 12:32; Alma 34:16 (15-16); Alma 42:1
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28 And now I say unto you that the time shall come that the
asalvation of the Lord shall be declared to every nation,
kindred, tongue, and people.
29 Yea, Lord, athy bwatchmen shall lift up their voice; with the voice together shall they sing; for they shall see eye to eye, when the Lord shall bring again Zion.
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28a
Ps. 67:2 (1-2);
TG
Missionary Work 29a Isa. 52:8-10; Mosiah 12:22-24 b TG Watchmen
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30 Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of
Jerusalem; for the Lord hath comforted his people, he hath
redeemed Jerusalem.
31 The Lord hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the asalvation of our God.
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31a
TG
Salvation
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