Moon Cousins from Edward Moon and Jenny Morshead
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Day Month 28-Jan
Year 1808
Parish Or Reg Dist Liskeard
Groom Fn Richard
Groom Sn STEPHENS
Groom Age
Groom Residence otp
Groom Condition bachelor
Groom Rank Pro
Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) S
Groom Father Name
Grm Fthr Rank Pro
Bride Fn Jenny
Bride Sn MOON
Bride Age
Bride Residence otp
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank Pro
Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Brd Fthr Rank Pro
Banns/Licence(B/L) L
Witness Fn1 Cornelius
Witness Sn1 Moon
Witness Fn2 Elizabeth
Witness Sn2 Moon
Other Information
Transcriber Notes Jago's Trans
Transcriber Frances Kenshole
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Day Month 20-Oct
Year 1829
Parish Or Reg Dist Liskeard
Groom Fn John
Groom Sn RABY
Groom Age
Groom Residence Menheniot
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Pro
Grm Sign/Mark(S/M) S
Groom Father Name
Grm Fthr Rank Pro
Bride Fn Jane
Bride Sn STEPHENS
Bride Age
Bride Residence otp
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Pro
Brd Sign/Mark(S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Brd Fthr Rank Pro
Banns/Licence(B/L) L
Witness Fn1 Hugh
Witness Sn1 SNELL
Witness Fn2 ?---
Witness Sn2 ?---
Other Information
Transcriber Notes Jago's Trans
Transcriber Peter Walton
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Day Month 06-Mar
Year 1834
Parish/Reg Dist Menheniot
Forename John
Surname RABY
Sex Male
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Jane
Residence Hendra
Father Rank Pro Yeoman
Notes
Trans Notes
Transcriber Sharon Symons
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Richard Stephens Raby, Solicitor, Wellton, Liskeard
Richard Stephens Raby = Charlotte Raby
of Hendra | of Poole Hall
cb 4 Nov 1830 | cb 17 Dec 1830
Menhenoit | St Martin Looe
m 20 Oct 1859 | d 15 Jul 1912
Menhenoit | Surrey, Eng
db 25 Feb 1893 | wp 29 Jul 1912
Liskeard | Reg. London E.
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| Richard Stephens Raby Arthur Raby John Henry Raby George Raby Howard Dunn Raby Percy Raby
| 21 Jul 1865 b 31 Jan 1867 b 26 Jun 1868
| cb 15 Nov 1860 cb 5 Jun 1862 cb 29 Oct 1863 cb 9 Mar 1865 cb 3 Jun 1867 cb 23 Oct 1868
| Liskeard Liskeard Liskeard Liskeard Liskeard Liskeard
| m 1896 m 1890 d 5 Mar 1895
| Croydon Sry E Floyd, Wdby, IA
| = Evelyn Maud Neck = Anna C age 26
| d 17 Apr 1928 d 29 Mar 1935 d 20 Feb 1899
| S Croydon, Sry E. Chicago, Ck IL S Norwood Sry E
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Samuel Snell Raby William Stephens Raby Ernest Raby Alfred Raby Laura Raby
b 10 Aug 1870 b 24 Jan/Feb 1872 b 1873 b Dec 1874 b Oct 1876
cb 20 Oct 1870 cb 15 May 1872 Liskeard Liskeard
Liskeard Liskeard d 6 May 1906 m db 21 May 1878
a 30 1900 US Cen. m Maldon Esx E Liskeard 19mo
= Libbie = Alice Jane
= Elizabeth M Angove
d 23 May 1965
Akron, Ply IA
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Day Month 15-Nov
Year 1860
Parish/Reg Dist Liskeard
Forename Richard
Stephens
Surname RABEY
Sex
Father Forename Richard
Stephens
Mother Forename Charlotte
Residence Welltown
Father Rank Pro Solicitor
Notes
Trans Notes Src: Copy
Register CRO
Ref:DDP/126/25
& DDP/126/1/27.
Transcriber Frances Kenshole
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Day Month 09-Mar
Year 1865
Parish/Reg Dist Liskeard
Forename George
Surname RABY
Sex
Father Forename Richard
Stephens
Mother Forename Charlotte
Residence Welltown
Father Rank Pro Solicitor
Notes Born 9 Jan? 1865
Received July
21? 1865?
Trans Notes Src: Copy
Register CRO
Ref: DDP/126/1/28
Transcriber Frances Kenshole
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Day Month 15-May
Year 1872
Parish/Reg Dist Liskeard
Forename William
Stephens
Surname RABEY
Sex
Father Forename Richard
Stephens
Mother Forename Charlotte
Residence Well Town
Father Rank Pro Solicitor
Notes Born Jany
24 1872
Trans Notes Src: Copy
Register CRO
Ref: DDP/126/1/29
Transcriber Frances Kenshole
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Family of John Carwell and Emmeline RabyThe family of John Carswell and Emmeline Raby is another case of family being inter-related. John Carswell is the only son of Robert Carswell and Elizabeth Moon. This Elizabeth Moon is the daughter of Edward Moon and Jenny Morshead. And by the will of Elizabeth's brother Cornelius Moon, written in 1832 and probated in 1837, come the Trewen land rights where Elizabeth [Moon] Carswell, wife of Robert Carswell, and her son John Raby Carwell are living upon on the 1841 and 1851 census records as first presented below. Note that while the 'rounded 1841 Census' does give the son's age nearly correct despite the rounding of the age, the 1851 Census age of the son is completely an error in the OPC online project that extracts from the original. The Census Records Of Carswell Family1841 Census - Liskeard, Trewen* Trewenn,1,John Carswell,20**,,Farmer,In county, [John Carswell son Robert & Elizabeth Carswell, b 1818] ,,Elizabeth Carswell,,60**,,In county, [Mother Elizabeth [Moon] Carswell, b 1777] ,,William Lobb,20,,Male Servant,In county, ,,John Rower,10,,Male Servant,In county, ,,Elizabeth Congdon,,20,Female Servant,Not in county, [Note: The 1841 Census has the adult ages generally rounded down in 5 year intervals with few exceptions. This means that John Carswell age 20 was age 20-24 and Elizabeth Carswell age 60 was age 60-64.] * Any interest in Trewen in Liskeard was that which would have come by way of the will of Elizabeth [Moon] Carswell's brother Cornelius Moon - WILL. ** Elizabeth Carswell is the same as Elizabeth Moon the daugher of Edward Moon and his wife Jenny Morshead. Dispite the age difference between Elizabeth Carswell and John Carswell Elizabeth is John's mother. He is the son of Robert Carswell and Elizabeth [Moon] Carswell mentioned in the will of Cornelius Moon just previously cited. Elizabeth is Cornelius Moon's sister, daughter of Edward Moon and Jenny Morshead as stated. | ||
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Day Month 09-Feb
Year 1790
Parish/Reg District Liskeard
Groom Fn John
Groom Sn CARSWELL
Groom Age
Groom Residence otp
Groom Condition bachelor
Groom Rank Pro
Grm Sgnd/Mark(S/M) S
Groom Father Name
Grm Fthr Rank Pro
Bride Fn Mary
Bride Sn RICHARDS
Bride Age
Bride Residence otp
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank Pro
Brd Sgnd/Mark(S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Brd Fthr Rank Pro
Banns/Licence(B/L) L
Witness Fn1 George
Witness Sn1 Richards
Witness Fn2 Amy
Witness Sn2 Richards
Other Information signed
RICHARDES
Transcriber Notes Jago's Trans
Transcriber Frances Kenshole
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Day Month 04-Apr
Year 1861
Parish/Reg Dist Menheniot
Forename John Raby
Surname CARSWELL
Sex son
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Emmeline
Residence Beloytha
Father Rank Pro yeoman
Notes
Trans Notes
Transcriber Sue Mutton
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Relationship Pedigree
Edward Moon = Jenny Morshead
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Mary Ane Fitze = Nicholas Moon Jenny Moon = Richard Stephens Elizabeth Moon = Robert Carswell
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Philip Trout = Susanna Moon John Raby = Jane Stephens |
|___________ |_________ _________|
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Thomas Rowe Hender = Mari Aina Trout Emmeline Raby = John Carswell
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('My' Hender Family) (4 Raby-Carswell Children)
Elizabeth Moon married late to Robert Carswell and had her son John Carswell in 1818 at the age
of about 41 (1818-1777=41) as witnessed by the information of the 1851 census. Jenny Moon married
young, about 22, and had her daughter Jane Stephens at age about 23 (1808-1775). Jane Stephens
married John Raby about the age of 21 (1829-1808) and had her daughter Emmeline Raby about the
age of 24 (1832-1808). John Carswell born 1818 age is rounded reported as 20 in 1841 and wrongly
reported as 22 in 1851, but is more correctly reported in 1861 at age 41. Thus John Carwell marries
in 1860, about age 41 to Emmeline Raby age about 28. They have four children beginning with John
Raby Carswell early in 1861, Jane Stephens Carswell later in 1862, Elizabeth Moon Carswell very
early 1864 and Charles Honey Carswell in 1866. John Carswell then dies and is buried 11 June 1867
at the age of 48. He thereby leaves his wife about 35 with four young children under age 8.
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~ Appendix I ~The Mystic of Carswell THERE are those who seem to makeup pedigrees out of nothing for whatever purposes they have at hand. Without facts or figures they mine the records just to put together falsified Pedigrees. Such is the case of this Carswell Family. Well to do, perhaps. Lady Elizabeth [Moon] Carswell is well spoken of, at least in the Census Record as a 'Lady'. What positions, if any, these Carswells may have had, there are some that would readily tie themselves to them. Having them as cousins upon three different connects, I have studied this family and I feell somewhat obligated to set the ancestry grabbers straight. Without going into giving of my connections to John Carswell and Emmeline [Raby] Carswell, I will begin with them and their four children that genealogy makers seem to covet a connection from. Let it be given here their simple line pedigree from above.
John Carswell = Emmeline Raby
cb 30 Sep 1818 | cb 16 Feb 1832
Morval | Menheniot
m 26 Apr 1860 |
Menheniot |
d 5 June 1867 |
db 11 Jun 1867 | db 13 Dec 1892
Liskeard a48 | Liskeard a60
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John Raby Carswell Jane Stephens Carswell Elizabeth Moon Carswell Charles Henry* Carswell
cb 4 Apr 1861 cb 10 Jul 1862 cb 14 Jan 1864 cb 22 Mar 1866
Menheniot Menheniot Menheniot Menheniot
d 29 May 1881 d 9 Jun 1878
Iquique Devon
Peru, So. Am. db 12 Jun 1878*
Liskeard a12
* Some transcriber or recorded combined to list his OPC baptism under the name of Charles Honey
Carswell. So that goes. But at least the genealogy grabbers seem to be in agreement upon the matter of
his death and burial at the age of 12 at Liskeard under the name of Charles Henry Carswell.
John Carswell the husband dies in 1867. A bit of a will abstract from the Index of Wills and
Administrations of England and Wales, National Probate Calendar for 1867 will be given here.
Carswell, John. | ||
Richard Stephens = 
* The Census is either mis- or poorly written or read. John Carswell's age is 32 and
his Mother's age is 73. It is the reason that Elizabeth Moon and Robert Carswell had
only the one son. Elizabeth was in her 40s when her son John was born. And it is one of
the primary reasons the relationship pedigree displayed at the end of this page has a
generation jump/skip between the husband John Carswell and his wife Emmeline Raby. NOW>>
What are the two numbers at the right? Are they 22 and 75 or 32 and 73? Straight from
the Census page as written are these 1851 ages of John Carswell and Elizabeth Carswell.
rev. 12 July 2016