Further in the Biblical record it states:
Additionaly, Hugh Nibly is correct in stating that the Lord and the angels did visit Abraham that day. Sectarian Traditional Christianity as well as the Jewish perspective, which presumes no man has seen God in the form of a man and directly spoken to him as such, and thus they have altared the Biblical account and traditionally twisted it in their commentaries. And even though the chapter states that the Lord appeared unto Abraham (verse 1), they have made it to be but angels and only three without the Lord included to made it a fourth. Though Hugh Nibly is correct that the Lord himself was among the visitors, he stays with just three rather than four visiting Abraham not having reconciled properly between the KJV and the JST account. Nibley presumes that the Lord who remained with Abraham meant that only two continued on to Sodom which the KJV so states it to be two. But since the corrected version, the JST, states that three angels arrived at Sodon, then we are back to the corrected number of four, the Lord and three angels with him. Hugh's briliant mind has captured the important and hurried past the detail which Joseph Smith did correct in chapter 19 of the JST, that there were three angels, not two, who had accompanied the Lord, making four visitors in total that day in the plains of Mamre.
The fact that it was the Lord who did appear unto Abraham that day, accompanied by those three angels seems quite signifcant, as the bulk of the conversation is between the Lord and Abraham and not just an angel speaking with Abraham that day. That gives a completely new perspective to the discussion when one understands that it was the Lord speaking directly with Abraham and not just a messenger of the Lord. And it also raises some question of interest as to just who were those 'three' angels?
(A side note of curiosity interest is that 'spirits', made up of more pure matter than the natural temporal mortal man, do eat and drink as the Lord and the three angels did sit and eat and drink with Abraham.)
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Abraham entertains three holy men—They promise that Sarah shall have a son—Abraham will command his children to do justice and judgment—The Lord appears to him—They discuss the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. |
Abraham entertains the LORD Jehovah and three accompanying holy angels—The LORD again promises that Sarah shall have a son—Abraham will command his children to do justice and judgment—The three angels leave Abraham and the LORD in order to complete their task at Sodom and Gomorrah—The LORD and Abraham discuss the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. | NOTE: The currently supplied LDS scriptures heading to this chapter follows the traditional sectarian thought that only three messengers appeared and visited Abraham and that the Lord later speaks with Abraham. This is not what the scriptures state. Beginning with the very first verse of the chapter it plainly states that 'the LORD appeared unto Abraham.' |
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¶ AND the LORD
aappeareda
unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent
door in the heat of the daya;
2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three amen stood by hima [the LORD]: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bbowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My aLorda, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: 4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and awash your feet, and brest yourselves under the tree: 5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and acomfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye bcome to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said. 6 And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth. 7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it. .8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.
Modern revelation clarifies this to some degree. "For no man has seen God at any time in the flesh, except guicked by the Spirit of God. Neither can any natural man abide the presence of God, neither after the carnal mind.' (D&C 67:11-12) This seems to give an explanation of when man can see God. The natural man with his natural eyes can not behold the glory of God. But by the power of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, one is 'quickened' that the spirit, the eyes and ears of the Spirit, can both hear and see God. This would mean that when a man does see God, the presence of the spirit is revealing Him and to the man, and the carnal man is some how 'masked' and protected. D&C 84:22-25 explains that withouth the priesthood power and the ordinances of it operating that man can not see god and live. And it also points out that though Moses tried to bring the Children of Israel to stand in faith before God, face to face, because of their unbeleif they could not stand in the presence of God. (See topical guide, God, privilege of seeing) All the visitors in the case of Abraham, the Lord and the three accompanying angels did not seem to appear in their glory but as natural men, as Abraham proceeded to have their feet washed and did feed them. And certainly Sarah seems to see and react to them as merely being men. Thus it further seems that such spirits and angels of God can appear as ordinary men and not in the fulness of their glory. |
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The Lord appeared Abraham is no stranger to the Lord. The Lord
had appeared and spoken to Abraham before as clearly established in the Book
of Abraham. This is a clear and straight foreward statement that once again
the Lord has come to visit Abraham. As as confirmed by Bishop Eusebius of
Ceasarea as referrenced in the openning intorductory paragraphs at the
beginning of this chapter, the Lord did not appear in his glory but as a
common man visible to the natural eye of man as Abraham's wife also saw and
heard the conversations which followed.
1b he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day Abraham siting in the door of his tent in the heat of the day would be somewhat comparable to sitting on ones front porch relaxing and resting in the heat of the day. It seems significant that it is the middle of a bright sunny hot day when the LORD and his accopanying three angels do appear unto Abraham. There is little mistaking that Abraham did see his four visitors, it was not a night vision, Sarah saw and heard them two and did fix them food to eat. It was not just a dream or a vision but an actual 'visitation' and the visitors did eat and drink and sit and talk with Abraham as one man talketh to another. 2a three men stood by him Accompanying the LORD were three angels who had charge concerning the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. There is some speculation as to who these three 'angels' were, but surfice it to say that they had their charge from heaven and it could have been any number of possible beings under God's direction including the pre-mortal Peter, James and John, the Lord's Chief Apostles whom the temple endowment presents as assisting the Lord in his work. Or it could have been some others so assigned to dealling with this particular circumstance such as Noah, Melchizedek, Enoch, etc. 3a My Lord The word for "Lord" used here is 'adhonay' or 'adonai' which refers to Jehovah as Master thus avoiding the too frequent use of the name Yahwhe or Jehovah. Thus it becomes all too obvious to any good student of the scriptures that Jehovah was one of the visitors to Abraham that day.
~ They Did Eat ~ |
1a
TG
Jesus Christ, Appearances, Antemortal 2a Josh. 5:13; TG Angels b 3 Ne. 11:19; Ether 6:12; TG Courtesy 3a JST Gen. 18:3 ...brethren... 4a TG Washing b TG Hospitality 5a OR sustain... b Gen. 19:8
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9 And they said unto
him, Where is Sarah thy wife?a
And he said, Behold, in the tent.
10 And he [the LORD] said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, aSarah thy wife shall have a bsona. And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. 11 Now Abraham and Sarah were aold and well stricken in age; and it bceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. 12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herselfa, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being aold also? 13 And the LORD saida unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah alaugh, saying, Shall I of a surety beara child, which am bold? 14 Is any thing too ahard for the LORD?a At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the btime of life, and Sarah shall have a son. 15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid. And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh. |
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Where is Sarah thy wife? The visitors with Abraham would be only
men. Whether the cultrual norm for the house of Abraham, it was the cultrual
norm prevailing in the region that men ate and met together apart from the
women. Thus this question was not in harmony with the cultural expectation
of ordinanry men of the time. But these where not ordinary visitors and they
knew Abraham's wife by name. Sarah may not have known who these visitors
where, but Abraham's familiarity with the Lord would have revealed to Abraham
who they were. This question of invitation was for Sarah, who had not
witnessed previous visits from the LORD. She was to hear from the LORD's
mouth the promise of a son for herself. Abraham's faith already believed (See
Romans 4:16-24).
10a Sarah thy wife shall have a son Sarah heard the promise from the mouth of the LORD, but knew not who had spoken it. Abraham had previously spoken with the LORD (See Genesis 17:15-17) and had a similar reaction to the news of a son born of Sarah. Now hearing it a second time within the hearing of Sarah herself, Abraham's reaction was more fully believing in the LORD's word. 12a Sarah laughed within herself The statement was not so humorous but in doubt did Sarah scoff as had Abraham previously. 13a the LORD said Here is confirmation that the LORD himself sat amoung the men at this gathering of Abraham, the LORD and the three messenger angels. It is the LORD who speaks and takes Sarah and indirectly Abraham to task for their none belief that Abraham at 100 years old and Sarah at 90 years old could have a son if the LORD so stated it to be so. 14a Is any thing too hard for the LORD? The question was likely not only to Sarah's doubt but to reinforce to both Sarah and Abraham that it was so and it would happen. |
10a
Gen. 17:19;
Gen. 21:1 b TG Seed of Abraham 11a TG Old Age b TG Barrenness 12a Gen. 21:7; Ether 7:3-7,26; Ether 9:23 13a TG Laughter b Luke 1:18 14a Luke 1:37; Rom. 4:21; TG God, Power of b 2 Kings 4:16
Just how the ancestry of Christ is preserved as the legal and rightful seed of Joseph and Ephraim is set out in the text entitled Messiah ben David ~ Messiah ben Joseph. The dual ancestry of Christ is discussed and presented in some detail. |
16 ¶ And the men rose
up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to
bring them on the way.
17 And the LORD said, Shall I ahide from Abraham that thing which I do; 18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty anation, and all the bnations of the earth shall be cblessed in him? 19 For I aknow him, that he will bcommand his cchildren and his dhousehold after him, and they shall ekeep the way of the LORD, to do justice and fjudgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him. 20 And the LORD said, Because the acry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their bsin is very grievous; 21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will aknow. 22 aAnd the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham bstood yet before the LORD. |
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Shall I hide The complete and utter destruction of two great cities
of people would come as a shock to any who lived round about, and the question
would arise as to why it had occurred. God reasons with his messengers that
Abraham would remain faithful to the Lord even understanding that the Lord had
caused such destruction to come upon man. Not all have such faith. Many
question why the God of Love causes or allows men to suffer and perish.
Abraham would be better off having the understanding that God had caused the
destruction and why in this particular case the destruction was necessary due
to the extreme wickedness of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. God's
relevation to Abraham, a prophet, is consistent with God's actions of
revealing such information to man for man's benefit. It is through this
information that we understand just how wicked the people were. Only Lot and
his family could be saved. (See Amos
3:7).
21a I will go ... and see God would already have known that the wickedness of Sodom and Gomorrah was great, but confirmation is a part of the process of the Lord. It is the difference between God just judging us without our earthly probation and allowing us the actual experience of passing through such probation. We must go through the actual physical testing process. It confirms what God already knows, but it is for the actual witness to man of these things that we must go through the actual process and experience it for ourselves. Punishment rests upon actual deeds, not just the knowledge and understanding of the nature of man. God knew what was going on in Sodom. But actual judgments are to be based upon observed facts of examination, not merely abstract understanding. Before the final punishment of the wicked at the time of Christ's return, we may expect such actual observation of the facts of the matter of the wickedness of the world for the Lord's judgment to be based upon.re1407d, ez01pic, and see on da0525. |
17a
Abr. 3:15;
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Revelation 18a TG Nations b TG Abrhamic Covenant c Zech. 8:13; D&C 110:12; D&C 115:5; TG Israel, Mission of 19a TG God, Omniscience of b TG Family, Children, Responsibilities toward; TG Teaching c TG Children; TG Family d Alma 23:3 e TG Loyalty; TG Trustworthiness f TG Judgment 20a Gen. 19:13; Mosiah 19:7 (1-9) Morm. 2:13 (10-15) b TG Homosexuality 21a 2 Ne. 27:27 22a JST Gen. 18:23 And the angels which were holy men, and were sent forth after the order of God, turned their faces... b TG God, Access to
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¶ And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also
adestroy the brighteous with the
cwickeda?
24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not aspare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? 25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the aJudge of all the earth do right? 26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty arighteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes. 27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but adust and ashes: 28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it. |
23a destroy the righteous with the wicked In the course of nature's events, tradgedy happens to both the righteous and the wicked. In this case it was not going to be 'nature's course' which would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom and Gomorrah was to be destroyed by the hand of the Lord. The Lord had provided that Lot and his family members, who would respond to the word of the Lord, would be saved. It was not the Lord's intent to destroy the righteous, but rather to put to an end the great unrepentant wickedness the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah whose wickedness was fully ripe. Even the babies and children would be better off to not be raise up in the ways of sin as was occurring in Soddom and Gomorrah. |
23a
1 Ne. 22:16;
Omni 1:6-7; Hel. 13:12-14; D&C 64:24 b Gen. 20:4; c TG Wickedness 24a TG Worth of Souls 25a TG Jesus Christ, Judge 26a Jer. 5:1; Ezek.22:30; 3 Ne. 9:13; TG Righteousness 27a Gen. 2:7; Gen.3:19; Mosiah 4:1-3; Hel. 12:7;
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29 And he spake unto
him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there.
And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake.
30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there. 31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake. 32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be aangry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will bnot destroy it for ten’s sake. |
32 - Not ... for ten's sake In the great punishment at the coming of Jesus, many will be saved but we may expect the vast majority to be destroyed as in the case of Sodom mt0713. |
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Judg. 6:39 b Isa. 65:8
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33 And the LORD awent his waya, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place. | 33a Went his way The LORD had come as a common man in appearance, and when he left Abraham, the LORD walked away as a comman man would. There was no great vision with grand entrance and departure. Abraham had visited with the LORD this day as a man. |
33a
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God, Body of--Corporeal Nature
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